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no username October 11th, 2009 23:46

confused about g&g
 
I like the g&g rk47, but I have no idea what the fps is. I was originally under the idea that g&g had to limit their guns to 320 fps, like TM, but every site says something different; what is it!?
http://buyairsoft.ca/catalog/product...roducts_id=460

yuhaoyang October 11th, 2009 23:49

memory says ~360

no username October 11th, 2009 23:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuhaoyang (Post 1082030)
memory says ~360

where are they located, I thought it was japan because they had Japanese on their site, but they don't have much information on that. also does that site have a reasonable price?

AngelusNex October 11th, 2009 23:53

um... FPS doesn't really matter, as long as it's sub 400 (mainstream outdoor field limit)

theguy October 11th, 2009 23:59

G&G is based out of Taiwan.

Stock FPS can vary, but most seems to chrono around the 350-370 mark.

no username October 12th, 2009 00:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelusNex (Post 1082033)
um... FPS doesn't really matter, as long as it's sub 400 (mainstream outdoor field limit)

fps determines what type of BB you use, I was just wondering if I could use 0.25g BBs, I am not sure they will fly on the same level if they are fired at 320fps.

edit: wait why would anyone upgrade your gun to fire at 600 fps if that was the case!?

no username October 12th, 2009 00:05

I have been wondering, why would a longer barrel change anything? I was on the fence between the mp5 sd and the ak47, I am confused about barrel lengths, if the mp5 would be just as accurate I might switch to it.

yuhaoyang October 12th, 2009 00:06

what he means is that it's one of your last concerns in performance.
360 is fine. I recommend .25 or .28s

theguy October 12th, 2009 00:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by no username (Post 1082037)
fps determines what type of BB you use, I was just wondering if I could use 0.25g BBs, I am not sure they will fly on the same level if they are fired at 320fps.

Yes, Shoot at least .25s.

My G&G has a downgraded spring, as i use it for CQB occasionally so it shoots like 330. I still use it for outdoors with .25s and my range is surprisingly good.

no username October 12th, 2009 00:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuhaoyang (Post 1082041)
what he means is that it's one of your last concerns in performance.
360 is fine. I recommend .25 or .28s

does it have a tight bore, or will I have to buy one?

edit: yeah I have a lot to learn about airsoft

TokyoSeven October 12th, 2009 00:11

The majority of review state that the rk47 chronos in at about 360 with a 0.2g.
The use of a 0.25g bb would only drop the FPS down to approximately 320ish fps, which is still more than reasonable. With the correct hopup settings a 0.25g bb could travel a fairly decent distance, compared to the use of a 0.28g bb which would drop the FPS down to somewhere along the 300 mark, which in my opinion is still a decent velocity. Coupled with a good hopup setting it should still achieve a fairly decent distance. I personally would not go any higher in BB weight than 0.25g or 0.28g in the stock rk47.

theguy October 12th, 2009 00:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by no username (Post 1082043)
does it have a tight bore, or will I have to buy one?

edit: yeah I have a lot to learn about airsoft


its in the mail. Still using a standard bore for now, although if you have one of the higher end G&Gs, they come stock with tight bores

no username October 12th, 2009 00:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by TokyoSeven (Post 1082045)
The majority of review state that the rk47 chronos in at about 360 with a 0.2g.
The use of a 0.25g bb would only drop the FPS down to approximately 320ish fps, which is still more than reasonable. With the correct hopup settings a 0.25g bb could travel a fairly decent distance, compared to the use of a 0.28g bb which would drop the FPS down to somewhere along the 300 mark, which in my opinion is still a decent velocity. Coupled with a good hopup setting it should still achieve a fairly decent distance. I personally would not go any higher in BB weight than 0.25g or 0.28g in the stock rk47.

I can gauge the fps, here is a useful chart
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._vs_joules.jpg

yuhaoyang October 12th, 2009 00:14

that one has a 6.08 I think... it's completely up to you.

no username October 12th, 2009 00:17

will the mp5 sd be as accurate as the rk47? I don't have a degree in physics I am not sure about how barrel length affects accuracy, I like the mp5 better, but I want the best accuracy possible

TokyoSeven October 12th, 2009 00:18

That is a handy chart. I used this calculator
http://www.arniesairsoft.co.uk/?filn...s/fps_calc.htm

theguy October 12th, 2009 00:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by no username (Post 1082053)
will the mp5 sd be as accurate as the rk47? I don't have a degree in physics I am not sure about how barrel length affects accuracy, I like the mp5 better, but I want the best accuracy possible

Barrel length effects accuracy, but not as much as buying a high-quality tigh-bore barrel.

If you want the best, Buy a prometheus barrel. They are expensive, but well worth it. You can get them from ehobbyasia.com. If you dont want to spend that much, buy a systema or a madbull barrel.

no username October 12th, 2009 00:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy (Post 1082056)
Barrel length effects accuracy, but not as much as buying a high-quality tigh-bore barrel.

If you want the best, Buy a prometheus barrel. They are expensive, but well worth it. You can get them from ehobbyasia.com. If you dont want to spend that much, buy a systema or a madbull barrel.

I thought an airsoft gun was like a smoothbore musket, the ball bounces around while travelling through it, tightbores excepted, so the last direction it goes is where the ball will fly

edit: oh I found a source http://www.airsoftforum.com/board/Ba...f-t152887.html

scurvythepirate October 12th, 2009 00:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by no username (Post 1082043)
does it have a tight bore, or will I have to buy one?

edit: yeah I have a lot to learn about airsoft

Well my G&G has decent accuracy, not as good as TM's that I've fired, but okay.
I would highly suggest getting a Tightbore barrel, Prometheus 363mm to be exact. Tightbores increase accuracy and FPS by like 10fps. Not too much. But we all know that if you're within the 270-380fps range your fine for outdoors.
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/prometheu...551-363mm.html

I know its expensive, but its worth it.

no username October 12th, 2009 00:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by scurvythepirate (Post 1082058)
Well my G&G has decent accuracy, not as good as TM's that I've fired, but okay.
I would highly suggest getting a Tightbore barrel, Prometheus 363mm to be exact. Tightbores increase accuracy and FPS by like 10fps. Not too much. But we all know that if you're within the 270-380fps range your fine for outdoors.
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/prometheu...551-363mm.html

I know its expensive, but its worth it.

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theguy October 12th, 2009 00:29

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http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-p...551-363mm.html

If thats too much for you, you can buy slightly worse brands in canada from airsoftparts.ca

airsoftparts.ca is the best :D

no username October 12th, 2009 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by theguy (Post 1082061)
http://shop.ehobbyasia.com/upgrade-p...551-363mm.html

If thats too much for you, you can buy slightly worse brands in canada from airsoftparts.ca

airsoftparts.ca is the best :D

could I attach any barrel to any gun? I have never tried, except on this piece of shit from umarex

Twin#1[Op-for] October 12th, 2009 00:53

Another note, if you can afford it, don't get the REC versions. Get either the normal or advanced versions. You will thank yourself in the long run...well not really that long. ;)

no username October 12th, 2009 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twin#1[Op-for] (Post 1082068)
Another note, if you can afford it, don't get the REC versions. Get either the normal or advanced versions. You will thank yourself in the long run...well not really that long. ;)

is this normal or rec? are the advanced guns that much better, the m4 advanced is only $40 more
http://buyairsoft.ca/catalog/product...roducts_id=456

TokyoSeven October 12th, 2009 01:00

Sorry no username aka adam west, duplicate accounts are not allowed.


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