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Short Round October 13th, 2009 23:02

How many low cap mags for my P90?
 
How many low cap mags should I invest for my p90 (echo 1, e90...will be my main and only weapon of choice next to my body)? I have seen every minus one, that high caps are horrificm while I have not seen or heard alot about the mid caps, but i'm open to anything. Also would be helpful to get a place to purchase them from.

Styrak October 13th, 2009 23:05

I carry 68 round P90 lowcaps with fake bullets, but don't have any in stock right now. Let me know if you want any.

Forever_kaos October 13th, 2009 23:05

Well, how many you want to carry is totally up to you based on your ammo use.

Short Round October 13th, 2009 23:07

Lets say for now I'm an ammo consumer/addictive trigger puller

Styrak October 13th, 2009 23:14

I'd say at least 10 then.

chaosnemesis October 14th, 2009 10:17

10? Bwahaha....you sir are a salesman. The most i ever carry on me is 5. 4 low 1 mid. They're not the easiest mags to accessibly carry. In cqb I only ever go through 3 low at most per 15-25 scrim and thats' somewhat trigger happy.

KND October 14th, 2009 10:19

I carry as much as I can and usually around 8 + 1 in my gun + 1 in my tactical reload left hand, lol so total is 10.

kuchervano October 14th, 2009 11:21

Think about HOW you will carry them, too. Two thigh pouches, one on each leg, two mags per, one in gun, is good. Unless you like to provide covering fire in long bursts.

Short Round October 14th, 2009 14:19

what about the APM 130rd midcap?

kalnaren October 14th, 2009 22:51

For my G36, I carry 6 mags @50 rounds each.. and it's usually enough.

Amos October 14th, 2009 23:22

Jesus.. for my Sniper rifle (SVD) I'm gonna be carrying 6+1x 98 round mags....

Ayashifx55 October 15th, 2009 01:00

i carry a g3 sg1 , 5 X mid mags 105 rounds (but i can only put 60-70 rounds , don't know why) and i always reload each 30mins - 1hour ;)

Short Round October 15th, 2009 08:57

I kind of want to try a TM 300rds Highcap or the AMP 130 rds Midcap. Maybe i'll just do this, get one of each: one mid and high cap and 2 low caps (the ones that come with the gun).

ShelledPants October 15th, 2009 09:03

A teammate of mine carries 18 p90 lowcaps on him.

I know: Space management expert.

Short Round October 15th, 2009 09:33

Also where would I purchase a dual Molle Pouch that holds P90 mags?

Dart October 15th, 2009 09:59

Few things

Styraks mags are really nice, Got some from him a while ago. Only thing is the bullets inside tend to wiggle loose. Kinda cool as it looks like its feeding while you shoot lol. Also they do tend to jam if you do not lube them up. If they jam just a good smack on your hand will unjam them. Sucks to do in the middle of a fire fight.

I have tried the hicaps for the p90 and they had NO ISSUES. I have a very high ROF p90 and it fed no problems. I dunno why people can't seem to figure them out.

As for low caps we have 4 and I find my self reloading after every death, now our games last upwards of 3 hours at PAC so its expected your gonna have to reload a few times. Also to carry the mags I use a AK chest rig. Yes the pull to get them out is not ideal but I have never had an issue with it. I am tall though so On a short stumpy fellow it could be a issue.

GF is 5"4 so she can't use the rig properly lol so she just went and bought a paratrooper bag *kinda like a manpurse* and throws them in there. its not ideal but it shows you that there is ways of doing something if you just look for it.


Edit* Go for low caps man nothing beats reloading in the middle of a fire fight. and it is really fucking lame when someone with a 300 round mag on a m4 is just spraying the log infront of you hoping to get one lucky shot through.... Hicaps should be limited to single fire IMHO unless they are designated support weapon.

coach October 15th, 2009 10:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1084423)
Edit* Go for low caps man nothing beats reloading in the middle of a fire fight. and it is really fucking lame when someone with a 300 round mag on a m4 is just spraying the log infront of you hoping to get one lucky shot through.... Hicaps should be limited to single fire IMHO unless they are designated support weapon.

That's when I pull out the 40mm nades. Worse case, I'll go grab my drum mag :D But then again, I carry 2 x 190 round M4 midcaps on a leg rig for those "oh crap!" moments.

Dart October 15th, 2009 10:15

lol I wish, next year. Its kind of hard to fit a BBshower a p90 and the one for the ak47 is rare if none existent in canada

Short Round October 15th, 2009 10:15

Thanks, that cleared up alot

Amos October 15th, 2009 11:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1084430)
lol I wish, next year. Its kind of hard to fit a BBshower a p90 and the one for the ak47 is rare if none existent in canada

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o...22numbered.jpg
Photo is of TGAallday

Nope :) AK launchers are not that hard to find.

And one of the mosquito mold launchers would fit on the P90 nicely:

http://www.shootercity-airsoft.com/i...%20(R1850).jpg

Danke October 15th, 2009 11:27

For P90 pouches hit up Tactial Tailor.

Armyissue October 15th, 2009 11:35

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I've had a p90 from the begining and ran into the same problem. Mags are a pain on them. Carrying and changing and all. So I sold off my Lows and went to the BOX mag. It uses an M4 Hicap the box hold 1200 rds and a large Battery. A lot of other AEG's hae come and gone but the P90 is now legendary.

coach October 15th, 2009 12:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyissue (Post 1084457)
I've had a p90 from the begining and ran into the same problem. Mags are a pain on them. Carrying and changing and all. So I sold off my Lows and went to the BOX mag. It uses an M4 Hicap the box hold 1200 rds and a large Battery. A lot of other AEG's hae come and gone but the P90 is now legendary.


http://www.ebairsoft.com/magazine-adapter-p-2027.html

canadian guy October 15th, 2009 21:31

I carry 7 mags on me. 1 in the rifle and 6 in my pockets.. It really depends on how functional your vest is for you and how you plan to play and how many mags you can fit but still be able to move and whatnot. I am looking to buy more mags to carry around 10 as I have loads of pockets on my vest.

Mitchell12 October 15th, 2009 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1084481)

Ya see, I'm no Milsim purist or nothing but is there anything close to that for the real thing? That would majorly through it off for me if there wasn't.

Short Round October 15th, 2009 22:37

I love the idea of a Mag adapter but I'm very picky about the look haha and that this isn'y eye appealing to me at all. And that ak is a beautiful piece of work, if only I didn't spend half my money on video games, I'd have enough for both.

Short Round October 15th, 2009 22:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Armyissue (Post 1084457)
I've had a p90 from the begining and ran into the same problem. Mags are a pain on them. Carrying and changing and all. So I sold off my Lows and went to the BOX mag. It uses an M4 Hicap the box hold 1200 rds and a large Battery. A lot of other AEG's hae come and gone but the P90 is now legendary.

I'm guessing from all you army issue ads in you signature, and username you run the site, so would you by any chance sell any P90 mag pouches?

Airmax October 19th, 2009 04:03

I currently use 7 Low cap mags for my P90. I use an dropleg to carry 3 mags plus 3 in a carrying pouch+ 1 in rifle. But I came across this little web site for all you p90 nutz http://thevestguy.com/category.asp?id=169 While I was researching for an Stargate loadout for future planning. Something I am considering to buy soon.
cheers

Dart October 19th, 2009 06:42

http://thevestguy.com/product.asp?id=10132 Man that is some seriouse bling. if only they made a chrome p90

coach October 19th, 2009 07:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dart (Post 1087008)
http://thevestguy.com/product.asp?id=10132 Man that is some seriouse bling. if only they made a chrome p90

IMO, the single points hung only on the neck are not very good. stresses the neck and you'll get tired faster ending your day in aches.

This is the sling you'd want: http://thevestguy.com/product.asp?id=10133

Short Round October 19th, 2009 14:14

Quick question about low cap mags? are they all the same quality?

Amos October 19th, 2009 14:25

TM will be highest quality..

If you can, I would buy all TM mags :)

It'll be more expensive.. but they wont fuck up.

chaosnemesis October 19th, 2009 14:35

the translucent plastic that TM uses is much better than echo1's or any othe ACM locap. I've tossed around annd manhandled tm locaps and not cracks or chips, still feeds perfectly. The mags that came with my echo1, however, already has chips but still feeds perfectly.

FOX_111 October 19th, 2009 15:54

http://aqar.no-ip.org:8080/GITQ_beauharnois01.jpg
I'm on the left side.

4 mags on vest, 1 in gun. It last me enough in CQB. But for outside use, it's not enough.

Airmax October 19th, 2009 17:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1087013)
IMO, the single points hung only on the neck are not very good. stresses the neck and you'll get tired faster ending your day in aches.

This is the sling you'd want: http://thevestguy.com/product.asp?id=10133

Noted. I was wondering about the single points and how they work. That other sling looks much better for support during those long milsim days.
cheers

Airmax October 19th, 2009 17:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amos (Post 1087198)
TM will be highest quality..

If you can, I would buy all TM mags :)

It'll be more expensive.. but they wont fuck up.

A big +1;)
3 years running and no issues with my TM mags.
cheers

Short Round October 19th, 2009 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by FOX_111 (Post 1087256)
http://aqar.no-ip.org:8080/GITQ_beauharnois01.jpg
I'm on the left side.

4 mags on vest, 1 in gun. It last me enough in CQB. But for outside use, it's not enough.


Alright well im thinking 4 mags for now (I'm too lazy to find out more about mid and high cap mags, so im going low cap, now to find dirt cheap magazines) and see how that turns out.

BTW if anyone sells BOTH low P90 mags (perferablly TM and/or Echo 1, nothing else) and a Double or Triple mag pouch or even a vest or leg pouches (for a reasonable price) please PM asap

coach October 19th, 2009 18:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Najohn (Post 1087342)
Alright well im thinking 4 mags for now (I'm too lazy to find out more about mid and high cap mags, so im going low cap, now to find dirt cheap magazines) and see how that turns out.

BTW if anyone sells BOTH low P90 mags (perferablly TM and/or Echo 1, nothing else) and a Double or Triple mag pouch or even a vest or leg pouches (for a reasonable price) please PM asap

Ask Jugglez about these: http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1490

The Marui ones are a little pricier: http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1149

These guys are ASC retailers but from the US so you'd have to account for international shipping and brokerage/customs/duty fees. http://www.airsoft-unlimited.net/osc...p?cPath=50_160

Great comms with both companies.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Airmax (Post 1087330)
Noted. I was wondering about the single points and how they work. That other sling looks much better for support during those long milsim days.
cheers

It might be me though. Since all my guns used to be weighed down with a heavy m203 and king round, I had to either hook a single point to my vest or wear a single point bungee sling so the weight was over the shoulder.

Short Round October 19th, 2009 19:10

SilverBack 150R P90 Magazines looks so much more interesting now cause they dont involve winding....hmmm

Quote:

Originally Posted by coachster (Post 1087397)
Ask Jugglez about these: http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1490

The Marui ones are a little pricier: http://www.airsoftparts.ca/store2/in...oducts_id=1149

These guys are ASC retailers but from the US so you'd have to account for international shipping and brokerage/customs/duty fees. http://www.airsoft-unlimited.net/osc...p?cPath=50_160

Great comms with both companies.

SilverBack 150R P90 Magazines looks so much more interesting now cause they dont involve winding....hmmm




It might be me though. Since all my guns used to be weighed down with a heavy m203 and king round, I had to either hook a single point to my vest or wear a single point bungee sling so the weight was over the shoulder.


Short Round October 19th, 2009 19:21

also, how many bbs should i probably bring for my first game? like would 4000 be too small of an amount of what?

L473ncy October 19th, 2009 19:28

Dude I have trouble burning through half a bag in a day and sometimes I can be trigger happy.

1 bag of 2000 **should** last you for about 2 and a half days.

coach October 19th, 2009 19:35

2-4k is what I usually dump on skirmish days. but that's a lot of shooting at nothing waiting for people to get organized on the field. remember, if you have low caps and only a handful of mags, 2000 rounds is a lot to reload.

but, when I shoot the M4, I bring 12-15 (field 11+1) midcaps all in the 130-190 round range so it's mighty easy to dump a mag at a tree or something else on the field but still have enough ammo for a few games. Reloading is even easier with the help of an electric speed loader. :D


although, packing that many p90 mags is going to be a tough task. :P

Short Round October 19th, 2009 19:42

okay haha good I was hoping you guys say that. that's one less thing to worry about now

coach October 19th, 2009 20:12

a bag of 4k is plenty enough to help a buddy out when he drops his bag all over the ground.

most games I'm at, most of us leave our propane and BB's out for others to use if they need to top off a mag or reload a few. It's not required that one ask but it's nice to hear it before they dig in. I do take issue though when someone's in my gear bag without asking.

Kos-Mos October 19th, 2009 22:16

By experience, hicaps are crap... They work when brand new. First time you drop them or forget them wound, they jam like crap. Then you have to slam the top of the mag (into the rifle) to move the BBs and unjam.

I had a P90 recently, and lowcaps are the best. It was my second P90...

The boxmag thing is also painfull. It makes it akward to hold the rifle, cause it to be a lot more front-heavy, looks like shit and you have to wind the M4 mag now and then.

I used to have 6 mags with my first and 8 mags with my second.

But 5 is a good number if you use semi or 3 rnd. I almost never fire full auo...

You can use AK tripple mag pouches (one pouch hold 3 mags) The ones with a rounded top. These fit 2 P90 mags perfectly, and are avalable in MOLLE system. Drop-legs are not that efficient, since the extra weight and mass on your legs will hinder you when running. And you run the extra risk of putting dirt and shits in your mags.


If you can sew a little, you can make yourself a nice sling for under 10$. Get some 1" straps (I used some from an old backpack), one 1" clip and one "adjustment loop" Then make a cross with the straps, and stitch them.

Slide the female part of the clip onto one part.

Fold that "arm" over the loop of the clip and stitch it over the crossing. You should have a "T" with the clip on top.

Place on the side of the P90. Wrap the arm opposed to the clip into the thumb hold and on the other side of the rifle. Then wrap both remaining straps to take measure. Make a loop from the first strap to go over and under the two others. Stitch in place (stitch on itself so that there is a hole to slide the other ones in). Cut the excess.

Then slide the adjustment loop over the top strap (the one that goes over the top of the rifle). You want to place it just above the edge in the middle.

Loop the strap and stitch in place to hold the adjustment loop there. Cut the excess.

Then all you have to do is place the remaining strap in the sling hole at the bottom, and insert it into the adjustment loop.

The rifle part is done.

Use a left over of strap, place the male clip in and fold it on itself. You want about 1 1/2" long on both sides of the clip. Take a piece of paracord. 4" is enought.

Fold it and make a flat knot between both ends. Place the knot between the strap parts. Stitch everything together.

Done!

I used an old laptop bag sling. Clip both hooks in the paracord loop. Place the sling over your non shooting shoulder and under your shooting arm. When you drop the rifle, it will go under your arm and out of the way. The sling is not in the way when shooting and does not obstruct movement when sighting.

Short Round October 20th, 2009 00:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos (Post 1087576)
By experience, hicaps are crap... They work when brand new. First time you drop them or forget them wound, they jam like crap. Then you have to slam the top of the mag (into the rifle) to move the BBs and unjam.

I had a P90 recently, and lowcaps are the best. It was my second P90...

The boxmag thing is also painfull. It makes it akward to hold the rifle, cause it to be a lot more front-heavy, looks like shit and you have to wind the M4 mag now and then.

I used to have 6 mags with my first and 8 mags with my second.

But 5 is a good number if you use semi or 3 rnd. I almost never fire full auo...

You can use AK tripple mag pouches (one pouch hold 3 mags) The ones with a rounded top. These fit 2 P90 mags perfectly, and are avalable in MOLLE system. Drop-legs are not that efficient, since the extra weight and mass on your legs will hinder you when running. And you run the extra risk of putting dirt and shits in your mags.


If you can sew a little, you can make yourself a nice sling for under 10$. Get some 1" straps (I used some from an old backpack), one 1" clip and one "adjustment loop" Then make a cross with the straps, and stitch them.

Slide the female part of the clip onto one part.

Fold that "arm" over the loop of the clip and stitch it over the crossing. You should have a "T" with the clip on top.

Place on the side of the P90. Wrap the arm opposed to the clip into the thumb hold and on the other side of the rifle. Then wrap both remaining straps to take measure. Make a loop from the first strap to go over and under the two others. Stitch in place (stitch on itself so that there is a hole to slide the other ones in). Cut the excess.

Then slide the adjustment loop over the top strap (the one that goes over the top of the rifle). You want to place it just above the edge in the middle.

Loop the strap and stitch in place to hold the adjustment loop there. Cut the excess.

Then all you have to do is place the remaining strap in the sling hole at the bottom, and insert it into the adjustment loop.

The rifle part is done.

Use a left over of strap, place the male clip in and fold it on itself. You want about 1 1/2" long on both sides of the clip. Take a piece of paracord. 4" is enought.

Fold it and make a flat knot between both ends. Place the knot between the strap parts. Stitch everything together.

Done!

I used an old laptop bag sling. Clip both hooks in the paracord loop. Place the sling over your non shooting shoulder and under your shooting arm. When you drop the rifle, it will go under your arm and out of the way. The sling is not in the way when shooting and does not obstruct movement when sighting.

thats actually very helpful, saves me money, THANKS :D

Dart October 20th, 2009 04:48

quick note about lowcaps. remember you can not import anything with fake bullets. also i find my tm low cap jams alot compared to my star mags.... i seem to have backwards experiences aparently.

Short Round October 20th, 2009 12:51

I should keep in mind that I am still new to this so I probably won't be going rambo on anyone anytime soon

Gato October 20th, 2009 13:15

God I regret selling my TM P90. And TM Mags would be the best bet for quality.


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