Are either of these scopes okay for airsoft?
 

Hey guys. Im wondering about some scopes. I'm going to be mounting a 4x scope onto my AK47.

1st Scope: $50. Includes mounting rings, but I believe they are dovetail rings. So, I'd need to buy some weaver rings for $10. 4x32
http://www.businessvision.net/edge/M...SKU=BSAS4X32WR

2nd scope: $30. Needs mounting rings. Range Estimating, Mil-Dot,
4x32
http://www.businessvision.net/edge/M...=LESCP%2D432M1

I'm liking the 2nd one more. Its mil-dot, range estimating, provides more info than the first link too.

i dunno. for cheap decent scopes, NC Star or Tasco would be my best bet

http://www.riflescope-shop.com/home

i have ordered from these guys and they are legit.

Oh, I know the website that I linked to is legit. Ive been to their warehouse. I buy all the stuff from their warehouse, not online.

Edit: Oh man, the NC Stars are so much cheaper! But do any of them have Mil-Dot and Range Estimating for around $40?

What do you need Mil-Dots for if you're mounting it on an airsoft gun?

Cuz it looks cool. I at least use them as alternate crosshairs with my rifles. But using them to range out something within airsoft range is just dumb. I mean seriously, unless you sort out your own formulas for within 300ft, there is zero point in mil-dot reticles for airsoft except for the two reasons I mentioned above.

Haha. Exactly. It looks sweet. Plus the range estimating should tell me how far the subject that Im viewing is from my postion.

I want something different then just a crosshair with "+". Haha

You're mounting a scope on an AK? And a Kraken on top of that? Pfff...

If you REALLY want to, there's decent illuminated TASCO scopes with Mil-Dot on Ehobby.
I had this one (blue version) with the sunshade. Wasn't the best, but quite a good value for what we need in airsoft: http://www.ebairsoft.com/tasco-4x32m...cted-p-43.html

Plus it's a 2-6x scope, which is better for the limited engagement ranges in airsoft. I don't think you should buy anything which has over 3x as its minimum magnification.

I'd rather not buy overseas. I'll check that website with NCSTAR stuff, when Im at work so I can see if theres any that are 2-6x or 2-4x or something. Maybe they will have a mildot on there.

Does anyone else thing that 4x would be too much zoom?

If you minimum is 4x then it may be too much. But it can be nice to be able to zoom in further to get a better view of things.

The scopes you linked are not adquate for an assault rifle, look wise.

And probably inadaquat for airsoft use, probably because you will have a hard time fitting them in 20mm rail compatible scope rings. They are ment for BBguns that generally use a different mounting system.

And 32mm for a frontal element is small if you want to shoot in low light.

At those prices, you won't even see what you are shooting at, with cheap lenses.

Get a Bushnell 3-9x40mm hunting scope. You won't regret it.

How would that work out? Know the fomula? And you'd be doing it within 300ft tops like I pointed out, why try to figure out the distance of something farther than that if your gun can't even shoot it (add in, range estimating up close would likely give you gross errors)? Best way to distance things accurately is to use the sight method, meaning you learn to judge how far away by looking at the amount of ground between you and your target. That way you don't need a piece of gear to rely on, you just need your eyes.

4x is fine, but the 32mm objective lens ont give you a very good sight picture for field of view. But since it's for an AK............ might look better. And check out Marstar Canada, they have real steel scopes, great quality, great prices.

Fox, The 2nd one doesnt come with rings at all and has a 1 inch diameter, meaning I could buy 1 inch weaver scope rings for it. But I understand what your saying, I think the one link with the NCSTAR stuff has 3-9x40 scopes. I'll check. How much does the bushnell one usually cost?

I also have heard good things about Bushnell Trophy scopes

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/st..._SearchResults

I see some here nice ones here:

3-9x40mm (Dont know if its illuminated): http://www.riflescope-shop.com/product/SFR3940R
3-9x42mm (Don't know if its illuminated): http://www.riflescope-shop.com/product/SC3942B
3-9x40 Illuminated: http://www.riflescope-shop.com/product/SEFB3940R


They also have this cheap 3-9x40 Non illuminated for $45 (with mount): http://www.riflescope-shop.com/product/SFB3940R

Should I get illuminated or non illuminated?

EDIT: :P Damn, forgot to change prices to CAD on their site, and now see a price change. :(

I never actually use the illumination on mine while gaming. Maybe because I keep forgetting about it.

Maybe Its different with Sniper scopes, But i never recommend Cheap Optics. I have had too many bad experiences buying poor Optics, I try to stick to legit brands.

If you can get illuminated for cheap, go for it, is worth having the option if you are playing in low light/night games. If you have a good scope with a large objective lens, in some light at night your view actually brightens a bit, but if you can't see the crosshairs your gun is useless. But if you get some quick release rings for your sope, you can pull it off and go with a red dot or something more useful. Is why I love my RDS on my MP5 and my NV scope when I need it, quick to swap back and forth.

Hmm. Well, the 3-9x40 non illuminated is $55 after shipping. And the illuminated is like $80-90 after shipping.

You get what you pay for. I paid $100 shipped for my Rex 3-9x40 Illuminated scope. Stuck it on a Diana air rifle and have had zero regrets. Illumination is great. Never thought I'd use it until we started doing plinking in the evening. Setting sun washed out my buddies sight but mine had a bunch of different light settings and worked out fine. As Stalker said, it actually made it slightly brighter than what my eye could see without turning it on.

First off, the site i sent you is canadian. second, DONT buy illuminated. i did that cause i thought it would be more versatile. its honestly just a waste of money. I have yet to use it ever.

hehe...I never understood why guys put scopes on anything but a sniper rifle. And especially an AK. Acogs and Elcans on M4s and M16s...OK...but even in the real world the only thing you would see on an AK would be a red dot....and those are few and far between. Scopes on assault rifles just looks goofy if you ask me.

Bushnell goes for about 80-130$ for a 3-9x40mm hunting scope. At those price, the lense quality is perfect for what we do.

I only see chromatic aberation when zoomed at 9x and looking at stuff that are 500m and beyond. The FOV is also very good and the images are very clear compared to a Tasco scope or cheapass replicas.

Like I keep saying, if you intent on using your scope for sniping or spotting/IDing target in dence vegetation, you need a minimum of quality.

I tried with a Tasco 3-9x30mm Illuminated (the one everyone and their cat has) and I could not see shit out of the scope. I had to return to the car to change my scope.

But...in the movies only the cool people have scopes on rifles!!!!!

In all seriousness though, I do share you sentiment. Ive personally never seen the need for any kind of sight other than iron sights. I have an ACOG on my UMP that I only use for spotting where I think I already saw a possible enemy with my naked eye. And Im not gonna lie, also because it looks badass. Other than that, I see little need for scopes on something other than a BA, maybe a DMR at the most.

I guess that I kind of have a picture in my mind what various rifles should look like. I base this on the images I see from various armed forces and their weapons. For me airsoft is appealing for the realism and simulation. SO if armed forces don't kit out their perspective weapons with a certain type of optics....then anything else looks goofy.