One man's junk is another man's Kraken!
 

I went into my local sporting goods store today looking for some kind of a sight for the GR16, when I noticed a Kraken in an opened box with papers taped onto it behind the counter. I had a conversation with the store's owner about it, and he told me that the kids who owned it(:rolleyes:) brought it in because the gun "wouldn't fire". He showed me the gun, and after a look at it, I was just a matter of excess abuse on the fire selector that caused it to come loose. Re-mounting the washer and screw was all it took, and it worked like new! The kicker is, the store owner already contacted his supplier, and had a replacement gun ordered, so he's not sure what to do with the old gun. I made him an offer to buy it at cost, and he'll find out if he has to send it to Aftermath, or if he can just write it off and sell it to me. From the sounds of it I'll most likely be ending up with the gun, which means that I'll have a spare gun for a loaner or a backup for games, and the best part is it's pretty much brand new for a fraction of the cost.

Just goes to show; one man's junk is another man's treasure!

good find. u'll have lots of fun with it

No doubt it will be interesting, I've never handled an AK replica before. I just hope I don't turn into another AK whore, and the GR16 becomes a wall-hanger.

You mean one kid's junk...

i can totally see that coming.

Yeah I guess you're right, but better off I have it over some tween that barely knows how to load it, letalone operate the safety properly.

Yep, we should all do our part to keep guns out of the playgrounds and parks :D

"Don't give your kids Airsoft, give me Airsoft!"

So I guess you got a 3D instruction manual that you can loan out now.

Nice. Tune it up with a few parts and make it a loaner/backup.

AK Tactical body for sure, since the stock body looks a bit flimsy. After that, I'll go from there.

I buy AEG's that kids drop off to pawn shops in Barrie so they cannot buy them back.

Great score man. Congrats.

Thanks.

I'd like to do that as well, but unfortunately the pawn shops want way too much, and it ends up being a Christmas present for some kid bought by a dad with deeper pockets than mine.

when it comes to a kraken, it's still junk, but at least when it breaks, it'll have been expected! :p

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I noticed CM.23 on the mechbox on it, isn't that a CYMA designation?

Aftermath are CYMA rebrands. I thought that was common knowledge? And it should read CM028 or something to that effect, as the CM.023 is supposed to be for MP5

it would say CM02 or CM02B on the gearbox

Wasn't for me, mind you I never really paid any attention to Aftermath.

You may be right, but I could've sworn it was CM.23, without the 0.
If it had the 0, it would have tipped me off immediately, but it had me wondering.

Let us know what cost price is for these things, I've often wondered what they wholesale for and how some stores ridiculously overcharge for them.

Sure, no problem.

so??? what was the price. :D

I have to find out....lol. He didn't tell me because he was on his way out of the store...:rolleyes: I have to go back in a few days after he gets a hold of Aftermath to see what's up. When I find out, I'll let you all know.

Hmm. Is this a big or a little store?

How many Krakens did he have on the shelf?

Congrats on your find, although I have to say there's something slightly hypocritical (in a humorous way, not malicious) about bragging about the Kraken while having that "keep Cybergun garbage off the field" banner in your sig (considering that amongst their half descent products Cybergun/Palco have a whole line of rebranded CYMA AKs).

Irony :)

Every Cybergun Product I've had has broken within a month, and their little ultrasonic BB's have lots of little plastic pieces from the molding process in the containers that will kill your gun. I found that out last year, I called them and they basically told me it wasn't worth worrying about.

@MoreToasties
It's just a little store, he usually gets in about 4-5 guns at a time, mostly because his supplier is a big douche.

So....you're saying that you're expecting your gun to break within a month then? Did you read anything Drake posted?

Yes I did, I was just pointing out something that's happened every time I've owned one. Did you read the part about this being the Aftermath AK and not the Cybergun AK? Cybergun uses shittier plastics for their products, mainly the clear lower recievers on their AK, Colt "A17" RIS, and let's not forget just about all of the other crap they make themselves.
I'm a pretty big noob, but even I of all people know that one.

You might wanna re-read Drakes post dude.

Cyma=Aftermath
Cyma=CyberGun/Palco

More often than not cheap clones get re-branded under a different name.

STFU and read more.

Most of the Krakens that I've seen have the clear recieved cracked. The plastic is no better.

I've heard stories about the Kraken's shitty lower reciever, but I've heard worse stories about Cybergun's horrible quality control. Buy a container of their ultrasonic BB's, and you'll see what I mean.

@Styrak: If you feel the need to flame, go elsewhere, because nobody wants it here. I got the point Drake's post, and I did before you came along. Maybe you should read the entire thread...

So before this becomes a flame-fest, let's get back on topic.

He wouldnt have told you to STFU had you actually understood what was said to you.

You have a sig damning Cybergun products. You made this thread saying you just got an Aftermath Kraken. Aftermath Kraken AK is a CYMA rebrand. Cybergun uses CYMA rebrands for their AK line. Therefore pointing out the irony of this thread and your sig.

Do you understand now?

PS: He wasnt flaming you. He was giving you sound advice.

I understood Drake's post just fine, and yes it was a bit funny, but Cybergun still is and will always be a joke.

BTW: Getting, not got.:D

You monkeys...

The cybergun boycott is not because of their quality, it is because of their attempt to monopolize the US airsoft market by forcing retailers to carry their products and suing companies over the use of generic likenesses etc.

The term "keep garbage off the field" isnt in reference to their quality at all it refers to their shitty business practices

if you want to boycott garbage then keep shitty clearsoft and crapsoft off the field, anyone asking advice on walsoft or ctsoft should be banned immediately.

Read up
http://www.google.com/search?q=boyco...&client=safari

pusangani for mod '10

Change you can believe in...;)

Wow, that really pisses me off. I'm going to spread that word to the stores around town that sell their shit, with any luck clearsoft will no longer be sold in my town, but I still think their shit sucks aside from the KWC line of springers.

@Xero: Sigged.

Spread the word to fellow airsofters, if they don't buy the stores won't carry it, economics.

Their full metal Galils and Sig556's definitely do not suck (CYMA rebrands, but it's still "CyberGun"), as well as a lot other guns in their line (which are all rebrands).

Sig 556 or not, I still won't buy from them.

the new cymas are really nice and worth every penny tho, not to besmirch the good name of one of my favourite clone company :D

If the new CYMA's are nice, then I'll buy CYMA. I refuse to buy Cybergun, not even for other people. Hell, I won't even tell people to buy it.

Cybergun Bio-BB's are awesome! I bought 2500 about 6 months ago, and when I tried using them today, they exploded in a cloud of dust when they hit something! Can't Be good for my gun though :p

By the looks of it, at least half of the CYMA products being sold in Canada are actually Cybergun/Palco (any AK with the white Kalashnikov logo on the side). Despite the internals not being crappy quality overall they still run quite nicely (better than the Kalash/Dboys, even though the new all steel Kalash have vastly superior parts); I guess it's durability that's at stake (I never found out, I like building my own mechboxes: I just liked being able to get a cheap all metal AK).

The full metal KJW GBBs (Cybergun adds trademarks) are also excellent performers.

Granted, the bulk of Cybergun's products are still clear crap. But then again that means the Kraken is the inferior CYMA internals in a cheap plastic body, so again irony.

The boycott bit, in relation to the lawsuits, is sorta dumb. They own licensing rights, they're enforcing them on businesses violating trademarks (I think that may be how they managed to get licensing rights to begin with, by agreeing to go after the unlicensed knockoffs on behalf of the trademark owner).

Either way, the banner is poorly worded/misleading -- probably the work of some outraged American 14 y.o. :P

To tell you the truth, I stole it when I did a stint down at ASF.

I think a local chinese owned convience store is selling a CYMA AK along with other AEGS. Ive seen it everytime I've gone into the store. I saw a crappy M4 that comes with a pistol and another gun, maybe a M16, but all the guns are full black.

I'll aks them about it next time I'm by Laurier.

When you're in there next, be sure to let him know Canada's replica gun laws as selling black guns like that is illegal.

They probably wouldn't understand me, and be confused on why a chinese guy can't speak chinese, but I'll try my best.

Quick update: The Kraken is only going to cost me $100! And with by birthday coming up this weekend, it's pretty much in the bag, or should I say onto the rack?

Considering you can get them for $120-$150, that's not that great.
Just sayin'...

... That's... not a very good deal at all...

Keep in mind though he sells them for $180/piece, and he has a higher cost of buying them due to not being able to order them wholesale. I'd say for what I can get my hands on out here, it's not too bad.

Well, I certainly wouldn't pay $100 for a used kraken, alls I'm sayin :P

But, if you think it's a good deal and you're happy with it, that's all that really matters :)

+1. $100 isn't bad at all though. if you were to build an AK from scratch it would take you quite a long time just to get all the lil things.

Compared to the deals that some of you hooked-up guys get, I'd say it's pretty steep. But for buying from a locally owned small-time store, I don't think it's too bad, especially with the GR16 not working, it at least gives me a bit more of a noob-friendly gun to work with.