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Action silencer seized at customs
Hi guys, I bought an Action 220mm mock silencer on Airsoftglobal and just discover today that it was seize by the customs. Are fake silencer prohibited? I didn't know that. Thank you
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They're in a grey area. They are not prohibited. It's like banning a metal tube, it could be used for anything really not just as a silencer. However there isn't a clear cut yes or no answer. Wait for other members to explain this more throughly cause I actually have to leave for class soon.
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I just talk to the Canadian customs and the girl told me that the person, the gun specialists, is actualy in jugdment of yes or no. So they didn't decide yet if they will ship it back to Fedex or seize it. Since it wasn't my first silencer, I didn't think there would be problem. I'll buy one from airsoftparts.ca if it's seized. And I'm curious to see the article of law they are suppose to send me for a fake silencer. :)
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I thought silencers and very short barrels were restricted no matter what caliber or function.
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If they're available in canada, shouldn't customs let it through as they're legally sold already. I'm not sure thats an actual rule tho.
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Pistol barrels on the other hand, in real steel you can't have too short of a barrel in Canada. But if it's for airsoft...that's kinda a different matter since it's not meant for a real firearm. |
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The only really safe way to import airsoft silencers is if the devices are solid cored, not foam, not empty. However, AFAIK, that's not the norm for airsoft silencer designs. |
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From my understanding after skimming through memo D-19 that suppressors are prohibited if they can be made to be used on a real firearm. Here is an excerpt from the memo:
"(c) a device or contrivance designed or intended to muffle or stop the sound or report of a firearm, such as silencers (please note that some silencers attached to airsoft guns may also be deemed prohibited devices if they can be used in real firearms)" |
I'm pretty sure that I read that airsoft mock silencer are not intended to be use on real guns since it is dangerours and can explode. So that you can't use an aluminium tube (airsoft silencer) with a real gun. And this is my third silencer, and I also ordered last year a complete ak outer barrel without problem. Well, there is a first time for everything.
"This is a non-functioning replica and not for use on real weapons. Using this replica on real weapons or for any other purpose that it was not intended may cause death or injury." |
Silencers are prohibited devices. Do replicas of prohibited devices not also get classified as prohibited devices?
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*Bangin head on table*
Normally I stay quiet and just read...
but come on guys... please Just like everything in life ignorance does not protect you... from yourself or the laws... why dont you spend a little time reading *not just here* but out in the real world, where you might just learn what is and what isnt legal. Hey and don't stop there maybe spend alittle time understanding the laws of hhhmm maybe lets see... your neighbors... or hey even maybe some of the countries that your *toys* come from But actually if you are dying to throw good money away to stupid decisions, why not send it to my offshore account in switzerland.. |
Damn, just as I ordered my QD silencer with a bunch of stuff, just like helical gears and bla bla bla for a total of 170$, hopefully they at least don't seize all package if they do... My other silencer came in alone and without any problem (LW aluminium short)
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I must have received 4 silencers over the last 3 years without any problems, and that's also the case for most people... That comes from overzealous CBSA inspectors, but if you take it by the book... some of them could be installed on real firearms.
That being said... they wouldn't withstand the pressure from a real firearm anyway. |
I've also had a few Suppressors come in, and all of them were checked by customs and no problems, could just be luck though?
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Meh, it's like a risk ordering complete gearboxes.
Airsoftparts.ca has Action Silencers. In Canada too.. |
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I'll wait a week before ordering one on airsoftparts ^^
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He's probably putting it on his gun testing it out on the range :p
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The last silencer I ordered from HK actually had "Silencer" declared on the customs form. It made it though just fine without getting opened up so clearly the customs officer was anything but overzealous. This was the first time I've ever seen an overseas retailer audacious enough to honestly declare the contents of the package. I should probably be more prudent when ordering from them again...
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Usualy they put something like "rc toy parts" lol
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If it's seized, Appeal it. Arguing it's not a real silencer, and it cannot be used in real firearm to met the criteria of silencer as it wont be much of noise reduction than a PVC pipe from homedepot . It's not illegal to attach tube to the barrel, real firearms have that see flux silencer for PS90 (make it looks like it has a silencer attached) they're legal. |
There are two different kinds of airsoft "suppressors", the totally 100% fake ones that are hollow and just used to cover long barrels, and the 50% fake ones that have the foam inside that actually reduce the sound of airsoft guns.
These foam ones are the ones that CBSA has problems with. I was at a LEGAL testing of an airsoft foam silencer on a real steel .22LR rifle and the damn thing made a VERY notable difference in the report of the firearm. Then I got my airsoft suppressor back :p The suppressors that take a number of foam rings inside is the most "dangerous" in the sense that it can be made to be a fully functional suppressor WAY too easily. Cost was the price of the suppressor and $3 at a hardware store.... Quote:
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You need to understand, attaching something will change the direction of sound. So in a sense if you record at the exit the result is not much different. I understand that you guys just want to keep stuff favoring retailers who took the risk already, but I'm just saying, If you don't fight, you will never win. |
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As I stated before, an airsoft suppressor with the foam inside WILL suppress the sound of a firearm slightly and thus according to the FA and the CCC you can be charged for it. Take a couple washers from the hardware store and slip them between the foam rings and you have a very useful suppressor for a firearm. There was recently a handgun with a FAKE suppressor on it that was for sale at a gunshow and the RCMP showed up and seized it. The guy can try to fight it in court but: 1) If that fake suppressor even slightly dulls the retort he doesn't have a leg to stand on. 2) Is going to be very expensive court case. As for local retailers to overseas, if Im not in a rush I go for whomever's cheaper. |
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