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8thArmy March 11th, 2008 23:41

Decrease the ROF.
 
My gun is shooting 750 - 850 rpm with a stock TM m16 motor, and im looking for a way to decrease the ROF down to 500 - 600 rpm with a 8.4v.
What motor or other parts should i get? Will a more powerful spring decrease the ROF?


-Heinz

TrueTGN March 11th, 2008 23:49

Could always get:

- torque up gears
- stronger spring
- a less powerful battery. An 8.4v 3600mah battery will increase the rof say over an 8.4v 2000mah battery.

I'm no expert with the torque gears/stronger spring but im just going off things I think ive read on the forums. The battery I know for sure will make a difference.

dontask March 11th, 2008 23:50

using a stock unported TM piston head will slow down the rof quite a bit

I found that my fully stock AUG increased in ROF when I upgraded it with a ported piston head and Guarder SP90 spring (lol I didn't expect that at all at the time)

edit: it might have also been because the O-ring on the new piston head didn't have as good of an air-seal

Azathoth March 12th, 2008 00:13

7.2V batteries will do it.

8thArmy March 12th, 2008 00:19

7.2 sounds good, but is there an AK stick type battery that is 7.2?
and thanks guys for the suggestions on spring,piston...etc
since the gun is only shooting around 270 fps, i'l upgrade the spring and see if that will get it down to 600 RPM!

Azathoth March 12th, 2008 00:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8thArmy (Post 667212)
7.2 sounds good, but is there an AK stick type battery that is 7.2?
and thanks guys for the suggestions on spring,piston...etc
since the gun is only shooting around 270 fps, i'l upgrade the spring and see if that will get it down to 600 RPM!

Open up the battery pack and take 1 out. Use some cotton balls/tampon or something to prevent battery from rattling in the housing.

Syn March 12th, 2008 00:34

People knowledgeable in electronics: Would adding a resistor somewhere in the wiring (just before the battery) or a tiny pot slow the motor RPM down???

monkey530 March 12th, 2008 00:52

Adding a resistor has the same effects of lowering the batteries voltage.

8thArmy March 12th, 2008 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azathoth (Post 667220)
Open up the battery pack and take 1 out. Use some cotton balls/tampon or something to prevent battery from rattling in the housing.

Sounds good mate! Thank you for the sulotion!
But wouldn't that lower the mah tho?

Styrak March 12th, 2008 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8thArmy (Post 667230)
Sounds good mate! Thank you for the sulotion!
But wouldn't that lower the mah tho?

No. mAh is determined by the cell, voltage is determined by the number of cells. So you're providing the same mAh at a lower voltage with fewer cells.

tony123 March 12th, 2008 01:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syn (Post 667221)
People knowledgeable in electronics: Would adding a resistor somewhere in the wiring (just before the battery) or a tiny pot slow the motor RPM down???


i can see there being lots of heat and decreased battery life in the long run but it would work.

ILLusion March 12th, 2008 02:33

1) Get a lower voltage battery pack
2) Get a lower mAh battery pack
3) Get a high torque gear set
4) Get a heavier spring.

Adding a resistor to soak up the extra voltage may require you to heatsink the resistor, as it will convert the voltage it's blocking in to heat.

Azathoth March 12th, 2008 10:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 667290)
1) Get a lower voltage battery pack
2) Get a lower mAh battery pack
3) Get a high torque gear set
4) Get a heavier spring.

Adding a resistor to soak up the extra voltage may require you to heatsink the resistor, as it will convert the voltage it's blocking in to heat.

Doesnt the mah determine the stamina of the battery pack?

DonP March 12th, 2008 10:58

A resistor will get quite hot since it will use the same amount of current as the motor itself (which will be a lot). Also, it will mean your battery pack lasts less time overall since power is being wasted on the resistor.

The best way to reduce the RoF is to use some electronics to control the AEG motor and make it run slower and more consistent - but without wasting power.

I'm working on something to do exactly this as a matter of fact and will have them for sale. If you're interested, you can watch for an announcement I'll make for them in the next week or two.

ancorp March 12th, 2008 11:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azathoth (Post 667402)
Doesnt the mah determine the stamina of the battery pack?

That's true, but generally higher capacity cells have a higher discharge rate, thus usually a higher rate of fire. It's not always good to go by that rule, and I suggest that instead one does in fact switch to 7.2v.


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