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ThunderCactus March 17th, 2010 18:34

About suppressors
 
Okay so the mainstream accepted knowledge here is that suppressors reduce your AEG's fps.
Somebody want to explain to me the physics behind that? Because it just doesn't make sense to me in the slightest.... Is the air normally denser in the suppressor than it is outside? lol
Like, how do you know your BB just hasn't SLOWED DOWN by 10fps over the 6" length of the suppressor?? It's definitely not accelerating in there since there's no compression...

coach March 17th, 2010 18:44

IMO, a suppressor decreasing FPS is pure nonsense! /thread.

Sha Do March 17th, 2010 18:47

I have never heard of this bro. I have used the same set up on my SR since I got it, and I'm using a PSG1 length barrel covered by a silencer. No fps reduction.
I also have a silencer/suppressor on my APS2, and with or without it installed the APS2 shoots the same fps.

But the only thing I could possibly think of that would affect the fps is that if the barrel length is matched to the cylinder, there is no ported piston head, and you install a barrel extension silencer/suppressor, is that you might end up with suck back on full auto....if the inner diameter of the barrel extension is the same as the inner barrel of the AEG. But even then, you are talking extreme odds of this happening.

So yeah, could someone explain the physics behind this "main stream" thinking??

SHA DO

Styrak March 17th, 2010 18:58

Pure BS.

Danke March 17th, 2010 19:00

Are these mainstream people thinking somehow the cans are like the real ones? That they are baffled to bleed off pressure so the BBs get slowed down to subsonic speed?

I think we all know how wrong that would be.

juicy March 17th, 2010 19:07

Never heard this rumour before...

... and I know it definitely isn't true.

ex March 17th, 2010 19:13

Fuck now that's one for Mythbusters...Pure and utter BS IMHO.

ThunderCactus March 17th, 2010 19:29

There used to be at least 2 guys in every thread about a suppressor that would say it decreases fps

coach March 17th, 2010 19:33

Re: About suppressors
 
You can safely call them retarded and link to this thread.

mcguyver March 17th, 2010 19:35

Back when I had such things, I noticed about a 5-10 fps drop when I put a SOCOM silencer on a stock MP5K. I chalked it up as the silencer acting as a barrel extension, or perhaps to any sort of turbulence created by the open foam cells. Who knows, who cares really.

If you quiet your gun considerably and it costs 5 fps, it was worth it.

I doubt you would see any losses with a gun shooting 400 fps, but 250 fps is a tad different.

Brayden March 17th, 2010 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguyver (Post 1188660)
Back when I had such things, I noticed about a 5-10 fps drop when I put a SOCOM silencer on a stock MP5K. I chalked it up as the silencer acting as a barrel extension, or perhaps to any sort of turbulence created by the open foam cells. Who knows, who cares really.

If you quiet your gun considerably and it costs 5 fps, it was worth it.

I doubt you would see any losses with a gun shooting 400 fps, but 250 fps is a tad different.

right there^ just air turbulence on low fps guns. Also often it doesn't line up perfectly, so it makes sense. Its not more then 5 FPS (I assume) really just people trying to sound right because they have knowledge of what happens with real weapons.

CDN_Stalker March 18th, 2010 07:52

First I've heard of this too. Only way my mind can picture it is from the air displacement to the sides of the BB not being able to expand as normal due to the suppressor, so the air in front of the BB compresses a slight bit thereby slowing it down a touch.

I'd call it bullshit too. Lol

m102404 March 18th, 2010 08:21

Never heard of that.

I've gotten different FPS chrony readings by moving the tip of the inner barrel back and forth away from the chronograph (i.e. by having/not having a flash hider on, having/not having a suppressor on). It is the Madbull blue chronograph, it is within it's range of error anyways, it's not significant.

Blackthorne March 18th, 2010 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1188590)
Okay so the mainstream accepted knowledge here is that suppressors reduce your AEG's fps.
Somebody want to explain to me the physics behind that? Because it just doesn't make sense to me in the slightest.... Is the air normally denser in the suppressor than it is outside? lol
Like, how do you know your BB just hasn't SLOWED DOWN by 10fps over the 6" length of the suppressor?? It's definitely not accelerating in there since there's no compression...

Ummm...most of the vets here have never heard of this. Where did you get that impression?

ThunderCactus March 18th, 2010 17:12

I've seen it at least 10 times, on this forum and MAA forums


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