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Spectre Wulfe November 2nd, 2010 18:26

Airsoft C7A2 Custom gun
 
Hey folks, I joined your forums to see if I could get help making a C7A2, I am from and play in Scotland and finding the bits I need is proving a lil difficult. I want the C7A2 I build to be as authentic as possible.

The bits I am having trouble locating mainly is the Canadian body, and triad rails. If anyone could help me locate these from some place that ships to the UK would be a massive help thanks.

Spectre Wulfe November 2nd, 2010 18:29

The body isn't as important at the moment though as I don't mind it having an standard M4 or M16 body to begin with.

mr_nuts31 November 3rd, 2010 16:31

there is a guy that was selling the triad mounts on the international classified so you should go talk to him

Spectre Wulfe November 3rd, 2010 16:35

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Originally Posted by mr_nuts31 (Post 1343226)
there is a guy that was selling the triad mounts on the international classified so you should go talk to him

Cool cheers mate, any other advise on creating this guns would be awesome.

Kos-Mos November 4th, 2010 00:18

Get a C7A1 body and change the trades. The older issue received where done that way, by converting old C7A1 into A2s

It will be easier to find than a C7A2 body directly.
Other than that, you just have to search the web for differences between the C7A2 and M16A4 (There is tons of comparative websites about that). Since your base gun is probably an M16, you will know what parts need to be changed.

LongStone November 4th, 2010 00:25

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ca...C7A2_Rifle.JPG
wiki has a fair bit of info for all the variants (but not many pictures)

the only major diff (visually) with the M4/M16 are the mags (not evident in the pic above) the scope we use. ( I think the Americans use it too but in a much more limited capacity) I haven't seen it for less than $130 CDN

icsbb has sells a "C15" if you have a distributor
http://www.icsbb.com/web_e/html/02_p...ind3=24&num=40
http://www.icsbb.com/web_e/html/02_p...ind3=23&num=52

I have an ICS 41
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...7&id=687266891 "Canadian" style mag is in

the scope riser cost me $25 or so (bought if for paint ball a couple years ago) I paid $30 for the front handle (Tippmann X7 part) from badlands paint ball :smack: (paid an extra $10 rather than drive all over Toronto)
Red Dot I traded a buddy for an X7 "M16" foresight (his suggestion :confused: )

front handle is mounted on a "real metal" weaver fitting (got a small box of them from a friend) its attached to a small piece of metal inside the hand guard (fits flush in the groove @ the bottom and does not interfere with the battery, did have to "tap" the metal myself though cheers to some common thread sizes between airsoft and paintball gear)

terrorist one November 4th, 2010 00:53

I dont know why you all think canada has different mags, Im in the CF and from what i can tell you from my training days in ST-jean is that we have the same mags as the americans. The same mags you see in the this pic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ca...C7A2_Rifle.JPG

scurvythepirate November 4th, 2010 00:59

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Originally Posted by terrorist one (Post 1343551)
I dont know why you all think canada has different mags, Im in the CF and from what i can tell you from my training days in ST-jean is that we have the same mags as the americans. The same mags you see in the this pic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ca...C7A2_Rifle.JPG

I know why, its because we used to use that magazine a while back.

Kos-Mos November 4th, 2010 08:01

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Originally Posted by LongStone (Post 1343537)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ca...C7A2_Rifle.JPG
wiki has a fair bit of info for all the variants (but not many pictures)

the only major diff (visually) with the M4/M16 are the mags (not evident in the pic above) the scope we use. ( I think the Americans use it too but in a much more limited capacity) I haven't seen it for less than $130 CDN

icsbb has sells a "C15" if you have a distributor
http://www.icsbb.com/web_e/html/02_p...ind3=24&num=40
http://www.icsbb.com/web_e/html/02_p...ind3=23&num=52

I have an ICS 41
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pi...7&id=687266891 "Canadian" style mag is in

the scope riser cost me $25 or so (bought if for paint ball a couple years ago) I paid $30 for the front handle (Tippmann X7 part) from badlands paint ball :smack: (paid an extra $10 rather than drive all over Toronto)
Red Dot I traded a buddy for an X7 "M16" foresight (his suggestion :confused: )

front handle is mounted on a "real metal" weaver fitting (got a small box of them from a friend) its attached to a small piece of metal inside the hand guard (fits flush in the groove @ the bottom and does not interfere with the battery, did have to "tap" the metal myself though cheers to some common thread sizes between airsoft and paintball gear)

Sorry to tell you... your rifle looks nothing like a C7... not even close to an M16.

AngelusNex November 4th, 2010 08:28

C7A2 would be the second from the top in this picture. (Crunchmeisters guns btw)

To make it he started off with a CA full size M16.
-Replaced the stock witha sliding crane stock (real C&s are issued with the standard M4 type stock but he went crane to fit a battery)
-Replaced receiver with Guarder C7A2 metal receiver
-added the tri rail under the gas block
-Bought an Elcan sight (he has the US Marine version which is battery powered but meh)
-CF issue buis (in front of elcan)
-and some thermold mags to complete the look though i rarely see him use them in games as they are crapy

-to be 100% (minus the stock) accurate he'd need to paint the furniture that awful snot green colour but it's good as is.

Also, added bonus, the C8A2 is the 3rd down, canada's M4. (picture shown with flashlight and battery stock)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4454556_n.jpg
---Picture owned by Crunchmeister---

LongStone November 4th, 2010 09:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kos-Mos (Post 1343651)
Sorry to tell you... your rifle looks nothing like a C7... not even close to an M16.

Right, its a carbine, the dimensions would be closer to the C8A1 (removing the carry handle)
and the Mercury Sable looks "NOTHING" like the Ford Taurus but more like a Lada :-?

If you have time to track every subtle nuance, variant and designation of the AR-15/M-16/M4/C7/C7 & SR-25 [7.72] platform maybe you could impart the knowledge to our Scottish friend above rather than engaging in the childish and irrelevant flames

or find us some pictures for all the variants here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Canada_C7_rifle

excuse me while I go polish my wdf was it again? Ak47 no...Uzi that was it :confused:

LongStone November 4th, 2010 11:23

Poor ICS lol they went through all that trouble to make those mags to ship to Canada and now they're out of date X-(

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrorist one (Post 1343551)
I dont know why you all think canada has different mags, Im in the CF and from what i can tell you from my training days in ST-jean is that we have the same mags as the americans. The same mags you see in the this pic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ca...C7A2_Rifle.JPG


Crunchmeister November 4th, 2010 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongStone (Post 1343706)
Poor ICS lol they went through all that trouble to make those mags to ship to Canada and now they're out of date X-(

Those mags have been out of date for a LONG time. I'm pretty sure thermold mags were phased out in like the early 90s or something (please correct me if I'm wrong) because they were just crap. If memory serves me correctly (again, correct me if I'm wrong) they were originally chosen because the nylon didn't contract as much in extreme cold, which is an issue with steel mags that contract in the cold and cause feed issues. But the feed lips would constantly be breaking on them making them even more useless, so they ditched them and went with the standard steel mags instead.

But if you look on the Colt Canada site, you still see them picturing their weapons with the thermold mags.

http://www.coltcanada.com/Images/c7-pic.gif


http://www.coltcanada.com/Images/c8-pic.gif

Personally, I like the look of the thermold mags, and that's the reason I got them - for display purposes. I think it gives the rifle a more unique look compared to standard AR mags. However, like their real steel (what a misnomer!!!) counterparts, airsoft thermold mags - at least the G&P ones I have - are utter garbage.

LongStone November 4th, 2010 13:13

@Crunchmeister good pics, thanks for the post

Spectre Wulfe November 4th, 2010 17:44

Cheers for the advice guys, I really can't wait to build tthis gun sold my Ak47 tactical to help fund the project.

On a side note I hope when I possibly visit Canada next year to catch a game of airsoft whilst I'm over.


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