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Delta Charlie November 20th, 2011 15:42

Scar vs m4
 
Hey guys, I'm in he market for a new assual rifle,and I'm torn between these two. First is the king arms colt m4. It is fully metal, looks good shoot around 360 and would be able to take standard m4 mags, (this would be nice because I currently have another m4 and would like to be able to use either mag for either gun).
The second is the scar h by echo 1. This gun looks beautiful, a lot of metal, and isn't just another m4. The only problem is, I don think this gun can take standard m4 mags so I would have to buy a complete new set.
I want the gun to be reliable and accurate (it is going to be more of a DMR).
Any help would be great thanks.

Donster November 20th, 2011 15:47

if you want a scar, get VFC.
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VFC makes some great stuff. Take a look at their M4s too.

Once you get age verified, you can have access to a ton of VFC stuff. Their external quality is top notch, and while i heard that their internals leave some to scratch their head, they are supposedly quite reliable.

But that is the beauty of after-market internal upgrades: if you don't feel comfortable with the stock internals, improve them. VFC is compatible with aftermarket stuff.

Their SCARs are supposed to be the most accurate representations on the market to date.

pitivier November 20th, 2011 15:58

I've got the vfc scar L and G&G m4 cqb-r. I prefer my scar, good product, good rate, accuracy, don't need to upgrade this airsoft gun. I use it outdoor and in cqb. The only problem is with the hinge for the stock , but it's between 8 and 20$ if you buy it in Asia or in Canada. If you take a scar take a vfc!

Delta Charlie November 20th, 2011 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donster (Post 1563633)
if you want a scar, get VFC.
/ thread

VFC makes some great stuff. Take a look at their M4s too.

Once you get age verified, you can have access to a ton of VFC stuff. Their external quality is top notch, and while i heard that their internals leave some to scratch their head, they are supposedly quite reliable.

But that is the beauty of after-market internal upgrades: if you don't feel comfortable with the stock internals, improve them. VFC is compatible with aftermarket stuff.

Their SCARs are supposed to be the most accurate representations on the market to date.

Believe me man, if I had the money to drop on a vfc , I'd do it on a heartbeat! Sadly , I don't... However I know that the echo1 scar h is a clone of the vfc scar, do you think that would be any good?

Pinard November 20th, 2011 17:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Charlie (Post 1563665)
Believe me man, if I had the money to drop on a vfc , I'd do it on a heartbeat! Sadly , I don't... However I know that the echo1 scar h is a clone of the vfc scar, do you think that would be any good?

A DPMS panther is a clone of something.. still a pos
Believe me, save your cash and buy VFC
buy cheap buy twice

Mandalore November 20th, 2011 19:06

I've got 2 VFC guns: a SCAR-L and an HK416 and I love both of them. I would say the VFC SCAR is the best one of the best, if not the best, SCAR out there, and I love my 416 as well, also considered the best AEG 416. KA 68 rounders work in both of these so they have good mag compatibility. I would recommend going to a game and seeing if it's possible to try out both an M4 and a SCAR, it'll give you an idea of which you would prefer.

Pinard November 20th, 2011 19:08

Also you should buy the Scar L not the H if you want that much to use Ar mags...

Delta Charlie November 20th, 2011 19:09

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Originally Posted by Mandalore (Post 1563710)
I've got 2 VFC guns: a SCAR-L and an HK416 and I love both of them. I would say the VFC SCAR is the best one of the best, if not the best, SCAR out there, and I love my 416 as well, also considered the best AEG 416. KA 68 rounders work in both of these so they have good mag compatibility. I would recommend going to a game and seeing if it's possible to try out both an M4 and a SCAR, it'll give you an idea of which you would prefer.

I have an m4 right now, but I just don't know what to get next. Man I wish I could get a vfc though...

Delta Charlie November 20th, 2011 19:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinard (Post 1563712)
Also you should buy the Scar L not the H if you want that much to use Ar mags...

The only thing is, I heard the the scar h is acctually the better gun in the long run

Coresair November 20th, 2011 19:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Charlie (Post 1563665)
Believe me man, if I had the money to drop on a vfc , I'd do it on a heartbeat! Sadly , I don't... However I know that the echo1 scar h is a clone of the vfc scar, do you think that would be any good?

Echo 1 rebrands gun, they don't make guns... That scar is a Dboys rebrand which is a clone of the CA scar.

jayrod November 20th, 2011 19:47

I had a VFC 416 what a piece of crap I will never buy another VFC again it was a very expensive lesson to learn. I know alot of people will say they look awesome and they do. If you want to hang it on your wall and look at it thats great. The internals are garbage, I had to replace the cut off lever and the selector plate and the thing still would get stuck in full auto. I also have a TM G36 replaced almost every piece internally on that and NEVER had a problem. I have a King Arms now and it works flawless! No Mods needed just buy the King Arms and Shoot it period.

Pinard November 20th, 2011 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delta Charlie (Post 1563721)
The only thing is, I heard the the scar h is acctually the better gun in the long run

Scar H --> Same internals as Scar L, can't find mags, mags don'T fit in ''normal'' mag pouches... The only difference between the scar H and L from VFC is the ''caliber'' they got the same guts

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrod (Post 1563742)
I had a VFC 416 what a piece of crap I will never buy another VFC again it was a very expensive lesson to learn. I know alot of people will say they look awesome and they do. If you want to hang it on your wall and look at it thats great. The internals are garbage, I had to replace the cut off lever and the selector plate and the thing still would get stuck in full auto. I also have a TM G36 replaced almost every piece internally on that and NEVER had a problem. I have a King Arms now and it works flawless! No Mods needed just buy the King Arms and Shoot it period.

you are my friend, a not lucky guy! VFC is well known for reliable guns same as TM ... you got lemons maybe. BTW my friend's king arms M4 got a lot of problem so... you can't only make your mind on ONE experience.

Delta Charlie November 20th, 2011 21:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinard (Post 1563761)
Scar H --> Same internals as Scar L, can't find mags, mags don'T fit in ''normal'' mag pouches... The only difference between the scar H and L from VFC is the ''caliber'' they got the same guts



you are my friend, a not lucky guy! VFC is well known for reliable guns same as TM ... you got lemons maybe. BTW my friend's king arms M4 got a lot of problem so... you can't only make your mind on ONE experience.

But I thought that I heard that the scar l has wiring issues (when you fold the stock they are visible, and the get chewed up, where as in the scar h didn't have that problem). I wouldn't mind getting a scar l , but they're all out of stock

krap101 November 20th, 2011 21:12

I'm not sure about the vfc, but the dboys/echo 1 has a very poorly designed lower receiver, where you have to "pry" the gearbox out, and the fire selector is a pita.

mr_nuts31 November 20th, 2011 21:53

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Originally Posted by Delta Charlie (Post 1563790)
But I thought that I heard that the scar l has wiring issues (when you fold the stock they are visible, and the get chewed up, where as in the scar h didn't have that problem). I wouldn't mind getting a scar l , but they're all out of stock

the VFC scars don't have wires coming through the stocks actually. They have instead a set of metal contacts tight on the hinge of the stock that connects the battery inside the stock to the mechbox.

here's what I mean:


http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...umjs2.jpg/sr=1


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