First gun cant decide
 

so i have been looking for my first gun and i cant decide on what one of these would be best to go with

Echo1 Task Force Black 6(BLOW BACK) for 280 - blow black seems like a mega + in awesomeness and i dont know if it comes with batteries and a charger or not

Classic Army B&T Mp5a5 Navy Version for 380 - does not come with batteries or charger

or the G&G MP5 A4 MAX for 470 - comes with batteries, charger and glasses and a replacement spring because they are surely going to bust apparently lol

but if i went with the classic army i bet i'd pay just as much or more because i still gotta get batteries and a charger right?

some info with the echo would be cool =D

How old are you?

21/ sept 10th 1990 =p

im waiting to get verified from somebody i saw at the richmond airsoft store x] in BC

also is that horrid orange plastic tip removable?

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I wouldn't call the inclusion of a battery that good of a deal... most of the batteries that come with guns I've seen are in very bad shape, they don't last long cause they won't hold a charge. You'll probably get a few games of use out of it before it dies.

If you go with the CA for example, you could source a nicer battery nimh from hobbyking and a good smart charger for the difference in price of the other 2 guns.

if you want blowback, get a gas rifle
pneumatic and electric blowback sucks

I'd go with CA, if its the metal bodied one. Internals on all of them are pretty much the same. The G&G Max will need a spring change.
Its better to get a decent battery/charger separately. The ones that usually come with the guns aren't very good.

Blowback on electric guns isn't all its made out to be, the exception being Tokyo Marui's new recoil guns. Cactus is right, if you want blowback, get an MP5 gas SMG. They will cost more than twice the amount, though.

Echo1 are rebrands. CA...CA...CA

Just buy any gun and play with it. If you dont like it then sell it and buy the next one that chatches your eye. Thats what I've been doing for the past 7 years and now i know what guns I like and dont like.

Yes but dont buy a PoS Echo1 when there is Classic Army to be had.

NEVER EVER use the wall-wart charger that comes with guns. NEVER. Get a real charger. Those things will ruin your batteries in a hurry.

So yeah, the inclusion of a battery and charger may look like a deal, but it isn't. The best guns don't come with batteries or chargers.

+ 1

Go Vfc you will have zero issues and good resale value

Go with VFC. If you were in store like I suggested in your other thread you would have probably seen the medium sized selection (they can get most guns from the VFC catalogue in country) of VFC from Airsoft Gear (but alas not many MP5 platform guns). Also VFC only makes an MP5 GBBR and that's pricey (not to mention extra mags) so I'm hesitant to recommend that to you.

I'm not telling you that you must buy from there (might as well wait for your AV to get through so you can see if there's anything else you might be interested in and have a larger selection to choose from) but the staff there are top notch guys and willing to help new players get into the sport. Also there's new stuff coming in in a couple of weeks so I'm told.

Also, although the G&G MAX is good it's IMHO not a good use of your money, there's better that you can get for the same price. It's not a bad brand by any means but a bit overpriced for what you're getting.

It doesn't matter as he isn't asking about buying from the classifieds here on ASC. It's ok to actually answer his questions...