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Hectic April 22nd, 2013 15:29

umarex vs vfc
 
Okay sooo, ive been wanting a vfc 416 for the longest time. Now ive been browsing around and it seems there are only these "umarex made by vfc" types available. So my question is are the umarex ones as good as the vfc ones or are they a cheaped down version made for umarex. (i know alot of other rebranded type stuff is made of crappier materials or to lower tolerances and such)
Anyone have the umarex and the vfc or at least handled both that can tell me if they are in fact the same?
Thanks!

lurkingknight April 22nd, 2013 15:31

umarex does not make anything. They are the license holders for H&K among others. VFC must go through umarex if they want to print trades and use the names in countries that care (US and europe mainly)

McCrea April 22nd, 2013 15:34

Umarex is only a rebrand for the "Official H&K Trades" so it's the same gun but with trades

BennyBoy April 22nd, 2013 15:36

I believe they are same gun minus trades

! On mobile; sorry for any spelling mistakes or autocorrects!

Hectic April 22nd, 2013 15:50

Cool. As long as it doesnt have that long ass paragraph about safety and such ill be happy

McCrea April 22nd, 2013 15:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hectic (Post 1787360)
Cool. As long as it doesnt have that long ass paragraph about safety and such ill be happy

It will probably, that's the problem with Umarex trades...

ILLusion April 22nd, 2013 15:52

Umarex also holds the rights for the external visual shape of the gun - not just for the trademarks themself. Thus, there is no such thing as VFC gun without the trademarks.

MaciekA April 22nd, 2013 15:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILLusion (Post 1787362)
Umarex also holds the rights for the external visual shape of the gun - not just for the trademarks themself. Thus, there is no such thing as VFC gun without the trademarks.

In case anyone wants to do some research on this topic , here you go:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_dress

Hectic April 22nd, 2013 16:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by McCrea (Post 1787361)
It will probably, that's the problem with Umarex trades...

Not fully. The US version is the one that has the big warning on the side the asian version doesnt as far as i can tell.

http://www.fire-support.co.uk/produc...16-CQB-NEW.JPG
Like so.
As opposed to the "OMG dont shoot yer lil sisters eye out" warning like this
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2...416eotech1.jpg

f 666 April 22nd, 2013 22:46

I bought mine from toronto airsoft and it has the warning paragraph on the lower receiver, a couple more weeks of playing and crawling around in the trenches it might just be rubbed off.

coach April 23rd, 2013 08:09

Hectic, have you seen the Ra-tech VFC HK416 yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVe02...s_digest-vrecs

Hectic April 23rd, 2013 09:18

Have seen some video reviews and such.
Looks sweet but i worry about those plastic top mags. And also sourcing one locally along with parts when needed. I think with the nasty trades on the 416 aeg im likely gonna wind up tryin to find a we 416 gbb and just get trades engraved down the road.
Time for gbbr for me i thinks


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