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Reaver_RRTS May 1st, 2013 19:31

S&T Tavor 21 inquiry
 
Saw a brand new Spartan Imports Tar21 at a local store. Liked the look and did some research on it, but nothing other than first impressions and personal opinions had been documented. I'm interested in this marker over the ARES version mainly due to price, second, weight. The S&T weighs 4.2 lbs while the Ares weighs 7 lbs. I've held the Ares, and the massive rear weight is fairly uncomfortable for a smaller player like me. Plus, I don't have $600 bucks to blow on another marker. The 'better half' would kill me. lol.

Basically, what I want to know is if ANYONE here has first hand experience using it, owns it and if it's worth the price. The store has placed it on hold for me, while I do my research. From what I know thus far, the particular model in question has the poly carbonate gearbox (yes i know they're not the best now a days) but I know there is a metal gear box version for the same price I just need to track one down.

If anyone can tell me anything about it, range, accuracy, feed consistency, ANYTHING that will help me decide yay or nay would help. Thanks.

~Reaver

AngelusNex May 1st, 2013 20:30

It's made of shitty thin plastic shell as opposed to ARES' polymer shell. You'll save a bunch of cash initially, but after replacing the gun every time you drop it you're wallet will hurt.

Also, marker.... no...

EchoFourTwelve May 1st, 2013 21:00

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Originally Posted by AngelusNex (Post 1790928)
It's made of shitty thin plastic shell as opposed to ARES' polymer shell. You'll save a bunch of cash initially, but after replacing the gun every time you drop it you're wallet will hurt.

Also, marker.... no...

I agree with what AngelusNex said.

also @AngelusNex not even a sharpie?

AngelusNex May 1st, 2013 21:21

Ok, Sharpie or even those new Crayola ones my daughter likes but none other.

skalnok May 1st, 2013 21:23

Poly carb gearbox is overstating it... And plastic body doesn't ween compare to the area ones. A pretty good comparison would be going to Burger King instead of moxies...

Bracketman May 9th, 2013 01:45

Just a quick jump into this. S&T also makes a 'professional' version which has a metal gearbox, a blowback feature, and a polymer body. I don't know if they're up here yet, but they seem to be in direct competition with ARES version for under 1/2 the price.

CR0M May 9th, 2013 02:43

I thought that the first versions of the s&t tavor were that plastic and plastic gearbox. Im pretty sure they are polymer and metal gearboxes now... theres a video on youtube i watched a while back comparing it to the ares. For the price it wasnt bad, something like groove marks/ lines in the body... big woop... and i could be mistaken but it was something lile the battery compartment being bigger. I dont know...

When you ask peoples opinions on certain airsoft guns, i would only take the ones into account who've actually owned the gun or gamed it a few times...

pestobanana May 9th, 2013 03:15

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Originally Posted by CR0M (Post 1793339)
I thought that the first versions of the s&t tavor were that plastic and plastic gearbox. Im pretty sure they are polymer and metal gearboxes now... theres a video on youtube i watched a while back comparing it to the ares. For the price it wasnt bad, something like groove marks/ lines in the body... big woop... and i could be mistaken but it was something lile the battery compartment being bigger. I dont know...

When you ask peoples opinions on certain airsoft guns, i would only take the ones into account who've actually owned the gun or gamed it a few times...

ARES internals are made by S&T, at least on their 2011 guns. S&T was engraved on my friend's gear set.

CR0M May 9th, 2013 05:11

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Originally Posted by pestobanana (Post 1793344)
ARES internals are made by S&T, at least on their 2011 guns. S&T was engraved on my friend's gear set.

Yeah, ive seen or read that somewhere too but wasnt sure.

Adamlxlx May 9th, 2013 08:14

I have one of those cheap s&t tavors. They aren't THAT bad damn. Been through many games, dropped, and is gets lipo;) Still in one piece. Its a nice light gun for my girlfriend.

Reaver_RRTS May 9th, 2013 09:45

It's a nice 'marker' (and yes, i refer to airsoft guns and paintball guns as 'markers' out of habit) and the seams being raised aren't new to me. The G&G G96 gas sniper rifle had the seams raised and i just sanded them down. Not a big deal. Thanks guys, but I just got an offer for the G&G FN2000 for $400 with a few upgrades in it. So i'll be taking that, since the F2000 is my preferred and favorite rifle. Still, might think about picking it up anyway.... But the one the company has IS the plastic gearbox version...

Adamlxlx May 9th, 2013 12:15

Airsoft guns are not markers in any way;) Mine has the plastic gearbox. Shoots 380 and is still in one piece.

Reaver_RRTS May 9th, 2013 12:26

Like I said, force of habit from paintball. For some reason it feels weird for me to say 'gun' in reference to airsoft when I know it isn't a real firearm. Idk it's just me lol.

DustMagnet May 9th, 2013 14:46

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Originally Posted by Adamlxlx (Post 1793424)
Airsoft guns are not markers in any way;)

A welt is a type of mark... :D

Brian McIlmoyle May 9th, 2013 14:54

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Originally Posted by Reaver_RRTS (Post 1793430)
Like I said, force of habit from paintball. For some reason it feels weird for me to say 'gun' in reference to airsoft when I know it isn't a real firearm. Idk it's just me lol.

it is a firearm, just an unregulated one

it's a gun.. used for shooting .. let go of your liberal upbringing, violence is not bad, guns are not evil.

you must not act the way you were brought up,


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