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bruce May 22nd, 2013 01:02

SPEED AK series triggers not meant for AKs.
 
Recently I had purchased a Beta Project Tactical AK from the classifieds and wanted to do some changes to the stock model. One of them was the trigger pull. Besides changing the trigger switch assembly for one that had an extended wedge, I came across a product from SPEED airsoft.

It was their SPEED AK series trigger both in Standard and Blade version. Searched the web and found that Capital Airsoft carries that line in their store. Called Capital and spoke to Jeff about the SPEED triggers. Everything was good to go with him about my plan to install it on my AK. Jeff is a super guy to deal with. I had a small problem with my order and this guy went totally out of his way to fix everything. I really thought that he was crazy and couldn't believe what he actually did for me.

Got the triggers and tried to install them in the Lonex gearbox. The pivot pins was tight to install but a little filing on the gearbox was good enough to get them to fit nicely.

Tried to install the complete gearbox back to the receiver and oops. It doesn't want to sit right. WTF! What did I do wrong? Checked everything again and still it wouldn't go in.

I then compared the SPEED trigger to the stock trigger and there lies the problem. The SPEED trigger was not even close to the shape and size of the stock AK trigger. How can this be? A bad batch of triggers as all 3 triggers I got was the same size.

Here is where the confusion begins. On the SPEED product description, it says for version 3 gearbox that includes G36 type guns. I figured and Jeff figured it'll fit AKs and G36 guns. After all, SPEED AK series triggers was the item name. Why would you say AK trigger and meant for G36 only. Emailed SPEED airsoft and got a fast reply that their description is correct. Am I that bad in my English to not understand that AKs was not meant to be used for this trigger.

Anyways, I don't want to bother anymore. I had my AK used in Canada's largest airsoft game to date and enjoyed it very much even without the SPEED trigger. this is just a heads up to any AK users that want to reduce the trigger pull on their AKs. Don't use the SPEED AK trigger. For M4/16 users, their SPEED trigger looks promising. I might want to try them later.

ThunderCactus May 22nd, 2013 09:12

pics?

bruce May 22nd, 2013 17:14

http://albertaairsoft.com/speed-ak-s...er-silver.html

http://albertaairsoft.com/speed-ak-s...ger-black.html

I've forward Jeff my emails with SPEED and Jeff has now added a note in his description of the SPEED AK triggers that it will not work on AK type guns. They are very nice products but I have no use for 3 G36 type triggers.

ThunderCactus May 22nd, 2013 17:23

I meant like close up comparison to see where they don't match up
I always thought you could fit any V3 trigger into any V3 mechbox, only the trigger shape itself changed, not the operating mechanism

Also, the first link is for an M4 trigger for a V2 mechbox, looks like he just copied the whole description for both products

bruce May 22nd, 2013 21:43

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8134/8...39b0eb57_z.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3700/8...abc57376_z.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5456/8...90e4f6ab_z.jpg

Does this help? Sorry, I don't have a loose stock AK trigger to compare next to the SPEED trigger.

Notice how the SPEED trigger sticks below the trigger guard and is position too far back. You wouldn't have been able to pull the trigger back.

Stealth May 22nd, 2013 22:11

That swiss cheesing of the Lonex piston is so pretty...

But the delayer clip is reversed :)

bruce May 22nd, 2013 22:20

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Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1798228)

But the delayer clip is reversed :)

sshhhh! That's what happens when you don't leave instructions! ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1798228)
That swiss cheesing of the Lonex piston is so pretty...

I should show you what I did on the rest of the gun.

ThunderCactus May 23rd, 2013 00:47

ahhh yeah that is CLEARLY not an AK trigger lol
The way I read it, it sounded like it was the mechanism end of it that wasn't fitting

Styrak May 24th, 2013 20:57

Also fun fact if any of you didn't know, the SPEED products are made in Canada.

Which is funny because I ordered a SPEED part for TokyoSeven. So it got shipped to Hong Kong, then back to Canada. To a Chinese dude. LOL


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