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Mirodasc October 24th, 2014 21:59

Boring out a Buffer Tube?
 
So I just purchased two of these:

https://triggerairsoft.com/shop/Buff...tock-Pipe.html

And they don't fit a LiPo battery, too shallow, can't close the stock all the way.

Since Trigger doesn't do returns, has anyone ever bored out a buffer tube before? I don't even know if I can get my hands on a bit that long/thick outside of a crazy machine shop.

Thanks for any input.

SuperCriollo October 24th, 2014 22:03

Just buy one of these, save yourself the headache.

http://airsoftdepot.ca/catalog/produ...db95ame72ujjg1

Mirodasc October 24th, 2014 23:02

I tried doing an order from Airsoft Depot, and they cancelled the order and refunded my money due to most of the items I ordered being out of stock.
They didn't tell me which ones of course, and now I have to wait for the money to show back up in PayPal before I can order anything due to lack of funds.

Stealth October 24th, 2014 23:12

I'm not sure how boring out the buffer tube would work since you would still need a shelf for the washer.

BUT...*whistle*
I'll just leave this here...
http://www.airsoftstore.ca/index.php...ex&cPath=66_51

Mirodasc October 24th, 2014 23:44

While I appreciate everyone trying to peddle me their wares, I didn't order from you because you didn't have a bunch of other products I was trying to get from Airsoft Depot.

ANYWAYS,
I didn't mean boring it out all the way. I'm just open to suggestions at this point.

Stealth October 25th, 2014 00:05

I'm going to be honest and forthcoming and tell you that it will cost you much more in time and/or materials to make what you have work, than to save the tube for a front-wired gun project and buy the right buffer tube for the job. It also depends on how deep the flange is, and only you would know that because none of us can see the tube on the inside.

So let me get this straight, you ordered some in-stock items from Depot, but since there is no notion of a real-time stock system, you were refunded for out-of-stock items, and now your funds are tied up. Yet you insist on buying there again because...the bunch of other products appear to in-stock?

Oh, I totally have about 8 spare buffer tubes in my personal stash as well. LOL
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=168219



Lastly, Stealth Top Tip - use a credit card when using Paypal for online purchases. Your funds don't get tied up and you can probably earn rewards/points on your credit card.

pestobanana October 25th, 2014 00:08

You will have to inspect the washer mounting system, if it is just a small shelf in a long tube boring it out will mean you have no buffer tube retention system.

Boring it out could theoretically be done with a drill, but you'd risk drilling sideways and destroying the whole thing. You'd need a milling machine. Unless you happen to be a machinist (then you wouldn't be asking this question), getting someone else to do it will cost you miles more than buying a new buffer tube including shipping.

ThunderCactus October 25th, 2014 00:08

Get a smaller lipo?
We use 11.1v 25c 1200mah sticks in the PTWs, and you can fit 3 of them in a crane stock with a short mosfet.

If you really do want to bore out the buffer tube, I doubt you'll be able to take out enough material to make a difference. Your problem you describe is of length, not diameter, which you can't make them any longer.
But if you did want to bore it out, what you're looking for is a lathe and a long carbide boring bar.

Mirodasc October 25th, 2014 00:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1916931)
..It also depends on how deep the flange is, and only you would know that because none of us can see the tube on the inside.

It's pretty deep, just over 2 inches.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1916931)
So let me get this straight, you ordered some in-stock items from Depot, but since there is no notion of a real-time stock system, you were refunded for out-of-stock items, and now your funds are tied up. Yet you insist on buying there again because...the bunch of other products appear to in-stock?

I never insisted on anything, or said anything about trying to buy from there a second time. You are putting words in my mouth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1916931)
Oh, I totally have about 8 spare buffer tubes in my personal stash as well. LOL
http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=168219

Again with the wares peddling.
Joking aside (kinda) I saw that when I got home from Trigger, and found the tubes I purchased wern't going to work, right before I posted this thread.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth (Post 1916931)
Lastly, Stealth Top Tip - use a credit card when using Paypal for online purchases. Your funds don't get tied up and you can probably earn rewards/points on your credit card.

Call me old fashioned, but I like seeing my money up front, if I don't have it, I can't spend it. Lots of debt problems in my family.
Airsoft isn't worth the hassle those folks have gone through.

L473ncy October 25th, 2014 00:56

I've seen people cut a section of a buffer tube out to be able to rear wire a battery with a PRS stock on the rear and change out batteries easier.... But in your case I don't think it'll work because your battery is straight up too big not just a "really tight fit and it would be easier if there was a section cut out for me".

Quote:

Call me old fashioned, but I like seeing my money up front, if I don't have it, I can't spend it. Lots of debt problems in my family.
Airsoft isn't worth the hassle those folks have gone through.
True dat. I've never had to sell anything in a hurry because of my fiscal habits, I've noticed that sometimes people need to sell their guns to pay their school fees or whatever around Sept when school starts.

Mirodasc October 25th, 2014 00:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 1916933)
Get a smaller lipo?
We use 11.1v 25c 1200mah sticks in the PTWs, and you can fit 3 of them in a crane stock with a short mosfet.

If you really do want to bore out the buffer tube, I doubt you'll be able to take out enough material to make a difference. Your problem you describe is of length, not diameter, which you can't make them any longer.
But if you did want to bore it out, what you're looking for is a lathe and a long carbide boring bar.

I should of been maybe a bit clearer, I meant boring it out to reduce the shelf length inside, as it's about 2 inches long.

My largest concern is not so much for myself as I have my stocks fully extended, but my girlfriend and 2 of my buddies who borrow my gear have shorter arms and like to have the stock as collapsed as possible, and the last thing I want is the liPo wires and battery getting crushed.

I love them, but sometimes they aren't very bright, and don't often heed my warnings..

But thank you, long carbide boring bar, information I was looking for.

ThunderCactus October 25th, 2014 12:14

Machining, if you don't know a guy, can be fairly costly. We're just trying to save you some money.
I would know personally, since I'm a machinist and I've done a LOT of custom mods over the years. It's worth it in time wasted alone to just buy a better suited product. And advice never hurt anyone, right? lol

Have you considered a crane stock?
The lipo sticks fit in the battery channels, leaving the buffer tube itself empty, AND you can run two batteries.

Mirodasc October 25th, 2014 14:46

I actually have access to a machine shop at school. I just need to find time where it's open and I'm available.
I was just looking for any easier ways if anyone's has done so at home kind of thing.

I do like the look of crane stocks, but the girlfriend doesn't. She likes her CTR.

My mechanic friend said he might have something that could work.
He suggested those serrated hole cutters, assuming it's the right size.

ThunderCactus October 25th, 2014 14:53

annular cutters? boring bar would be a better idea

I learned that, the parts you NEED and never the parts you LIKE. I had a PRS stock on my ptw and thought it was the most badass thing ever. Except they suck at holding and changing batteries, so I converted to a crane that holds 3 lol

Styrak October 25th, 2014 21:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mirodasc (Post 1916940)
I should of been maybe a bit clearer, I meant boring it out to reduce the shelf length inside, as it's about 2 inches long.

That wouldn't work, because then the screw would be too long.


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