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kar120c December 30th, 2015 12:25

WE G19 G-Force Skull plate elimination
 
I don't like the skull plate of this line of We Pistol. It is removable. May I swap it with a real stell one or there is someting for airsoft that I can use with minimum modding?

Kos-Mos December 31st, 2015 12:32

That is the blowback unit.
You can replace it with an aftermarket one for Tokyo G17 series.
Or WE G17/G19 (non G-Force)

Drake December 31st, 2015 13:00

Maybe cheaper to just paint it? If its removable you can even strip the old paint off first, then prime and paint it a nice flat black and there'll be no trace of the skull.

Kos-Mos December 31st, 2015 13:17

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Originally Posted by Drake (Post 1967715)
Maybe cheaper to just paint it? If its removable you can even strip the old paint off first, then prime and paint it a nice flat black and there'll be no trace of the skull.

It's molded.

http://www.wgcshop.com/wgc2008/main/...ult_logo_c.png

kar120c December 31st, 2015 15:08

The skull is molded, but the plate is removable not solid to the bbw unit like marui.
Asap I'll post a pic of it.
It is a strange thing because this plate is very well made and if it was not already mounted, I would it absolutely. But it gives and unwanted "fantasy look" to this pistol

e-luder December 31st, 2015 17:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by kar120c (Post 1967729)
The skull is molded, but the plate is removable not solid to the bbw unit like marui.
Asap I'll post a pic of it.
It is a strange thing because this plate is very well made and if it was not already mounted, I would it absolutely. But it gives and unwanted "fantasy look" to this pistol

Geez...

What did you expect?

All the markings are not even real. They look pretty stupid and the fishscale serations found on your gun doesnt really exist in the real world Glock slides. And if they are, they appear significantly different.

The retail pictures clearly show the stupid skull garbage you're mulling over.

So why would you even consider it if you didn't want a "Fantasy Look"?
I mean, you could've just bought WE's regular Glock 19.

That back plate is not something that's easily replaceable. All the aftermarket ones cater to the specific blowback unit from the their own line. Gunsmodify for example only makes backplates specific to their blowback housing. THeir backplates are slimmer than most and the mounting/retaining holes are different.

The only blowback unit that accomodates any other backplate is Guarder's. THey can accept REAL Glock backplates...

In regards to your stippling query...

If you want a fast way of stippling or if you're not very skilled with the iron, buy the UAC stippling tool.

Here's the link and video:
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...ool_Type_A.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adcXmaGMjoM

Stippling for the sake of looking differently is a pretty dumb reason to attempt and ruin a frame. Do it for functionality like improving the grip registration for quick draws, for example. If you're sure of your grip on this gun, don't even bother with all this non-sense....

kar120c January 1st, 2016 16:01

Have you experience about ACE1 Arms Slide with RMR and not? They seem to be the only SAI and Agency Arms slides for WE G19. They have a proprietary bbw housing and someone say that they are too heavy.
With one of this and a new trigger my G19 should look better
Quote:

Originally Posted by e-luder (Post 1967737)
Geez...

What did you expect?

All the markings are not even real. They look pretty stupid and the fishscale serations found on your gun doesnt really exist in the real world Glock slides. And if they are, they appear significantly different.

The retail pictures clearly show the stupid skull garbage you're mulling over.

So why would you even consider it if you didn't want a "Fantasy Look"?
I mean, you could've just bought WE's regular Glock 19.

That back plate is not something that's easily replaceable. All the aftermarket ones cater to the specific blowback unit from the their own line. Gunsmodify for example only makes backplates specific to their blowback housing. THeir backplates are slimmer than most and the mounting/retaining holes are different.

The only blowback unit that accomodates any other backplate is Guarder's. THey can accept REAL Glock backplates...

In regards to your stippling query...

If you want a fast way of stippling or if you're not very skilled with the iron, buy the UAC stippling tool.

Here's the link and video:
http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwol...ool_Type_A.htm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adcXmaGMjoM

Stippling for the sake of looking differently is a pretty dumb reason to attempt and ruin a frame. Do it for functionality like improving the grip registration for quick draws, for example. If you're sure of your grip on this gun, don't even bother with all this non-sense....


e-luder January 2nd, 2016 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by kar120c (Post 1967793)
Have you experience about ACE1 Arms Slide with RMR and not? They seem to be the only SAI and Agency Arms slides for WE G19. They have a proprietary bbw housing and someone say that they are too heavy.
With one of this and a new trigger my G19 should look better

AND?

Of course they're a bit heavier. It has to carry a red dot with it. THe kit comes with a upgraded recoil spring anyway (although I don't recommend using it).
Is it TOO heavy? No, not it my professional opinion. In fact, the stock WE recoil spring is more than capable of carrying that slide assembly with the red dot.

I don't normally buy Ace 1 Arms products. Mainly because they are ok at best. Anodized finish (i believe) on the slide (I don't think the barrel is.THat gold is horrific and comes off really fast) and CNC'ed aluminum, if i remember correctly. Some of them are able to be installed with minimal or no modifications while some needs a ton of work to get a fluent and unencumbered action. Some of them don't even work properly outright out of the box. It's really a mystery on which one you'll get. At least in my experience.

The internals it comes with are ok. THe loading muzzle is apparently a strengthened one although i dunno what kind of shit they made it out of. I've seen them break consistently within 500-700 shots.

But that was back then. I dont know if they stepped up their quality in their more recent production runs but I personally don't buy their crap because of their inconsistencies.

But it looks like it's your only option if you want to keep it within TRUE WE specs and are looking to keep the Salient Arms look.

The blowback unit is only proprietary to the slide to accommodate the melted optics. Not the system as a whole. The unit is a select fire airsoft Glock unit that Tokyo Marui introduced with their Glock 18c line. The only difference between the two are dimensions and the fact that ACE 1 modified the design so that it can be used with the semi auto Glock hammer mechanism (also introduced by Marui with their G26 line) and also that they internalized the fire selector switch.

The design choice was both so that the blowback unit can be used with WE's select fire Glock 23 and to accommodate the RMR optic (as stated above).

You could just buy the regular Ace1 Arms non-rmr version and turn your Glock into something like this:

e's Tokyo Marui / Kuan-Ju Works / Wei-Tech Glock 19: "Ludus"


http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0zer5u1n.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6x6nmxym.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...psokjqtqjy.jpg
http://i1255.photobucket.com/albums/...pskjs0s5ao.jpg

Bear in mind that the kit pictured above does not come with the blowback unit. Only sights. SO you'll have to use your existing WE stock blowback unit with it.

On the other hand, it is a bit cheaper and it's what your current set up is modelled after....

kar120c January 2nd, 2016 02:24

Ok, tnx for the Very detailed infos. About Ace1 slides, those without RMR should be the easiest to fit becuse they use the stock parts of the originale slide. Do they come with the outer barrel? I wish to mantain the Salient Arms design and at this Point I don't know if continue my build using the WE platform or start from KJW G23 and Guarder Frame. Guarder now sells steel hammer housing kit for it. I also have another build in progress a kjw g27 and the hammer housing kit should be the same

localfreerider January 2nd, 2016 14:05

I installed a Ace1 slides on a TM G17 for a customer, The kit looks nice and installs without any special fitting. The one I worked on the valve inside the Ace1 nozzle gets stuck causing all the gas to vent into blowback with none going out the barrel. To fix this use your stock TM/WE valve and spring inside your Ace1 nozzle.

kar120c January 3rd, 2016 03:07

Ok, I'll buy this one http://www.devgrulogy.com/#!product/...8-bk%2C-we-%29 out of stock almost everywhere this place sell it cheaper than others. Anyone knows a better store (not HK or TW) to order from?


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