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Cheesevillage December 20th, 2005 23:34

Combustion powered airsoft guns - a revolution?
 
While reading "Popular Mechanics Dec 05" during my period two spare, I couldn't help but notice a writeup on the tippmann C-3. Of course who cares about a paintball gun? Exactly! What I do care about is the possible application of combustion in airsoft. Yes I just said combustion.

"Unlike C02 or compressed air, a tiny amount of propane is ignited by a spark plug creating a combustion that propels the paintball out the barrel."

"...and it gets 50,000 shots from one $3 propane tank."

The rest can be found here: http://www.specialopspaintball.com/a...tippmannc3.asp

-Cheese

Bob the Angry Potato December 20th, 2005 23:37

Damn...
Well, if they can send a bunch of liquid paint trapped by a thin membrane, they can send a small, solid plastic ball.

Cheesevillage December 20th, 2005 23:38

My thoughts exactly.

-Cheese

Bob the Angry Potato December 20th, 2005 23:40

Personally, it'll be difficult. Downsizing the mechanism so much, and retaining the realism would be a bit of a chore... plus, it'd have to be pretty well built, in case of any 'mishaps' happening to the less intelligent players, or the more intelligent but too curious ones.
However, sounds like a great concept. Time to put MadMax's work even furthur.

mcguyver December 20th, 2005 23:42

i got to play around with the c-3 a couple of months ago. pretty cool. it makes a big BANG when fired. and 50,000 shots on a propane bottle isn't bad either. it would be interesting to see if someone can make a full-auto ignition system that could be used without flame shooting out of the barrel (cool nonetheless) or without any timing/premature ignition problems, etc. as the c-3 is a pump-action, only sinlge shot so no timing issues there. but he applications for airsoft with a loud and powerful and cheap-to-run gas automatic rifle would have my vote.

Cheesevillage December 20th, 2005 23:44

Yeah I don't think I would be interested in using some cheap CGBB (C=combustion - yes I first coined the phrase) considering the potential for destruction. If this technology were to be used it would need to be high quality or nothing.

-Cheese

...and yes the potential seems awesome

Bob the Angry Potato December 20th, 2005 23:45

Ah...
Maruzen M500's my first bet. There's at least some space, a giant resevoir, full-metal and lots of rounds to shoot.
Damn, that'd be great...

Mike the great December 20th, 2005 23:49

for those who dont know how a C3 works...
http://img108.imageshack.us/img108/7...nnc33mr8za.gif
credit goes to "Meph" @ PbN

Bob the Angry Potato December 20th, 2005 23:50

Hahahaha! I like the nuke bit, really...
Anyways, it's a great idea. I want to see it tried out... I'd go with Maruzen M500, still. Looks like it'd work.

Cheesevillage December 20th, 2005 23:52

Okay so when do we blow up...erm "test" our first M500?

-Cheese

MadMax December 20th, 2005 23:53

Already there:

http://www.airsoftmechanics.com/phpB...d858b9ea512401

Bob the Angry Potato December 20th, 2005 23:53

As soon as someone's crazy enough to rip apart theirs, add one of these and pray it won't explode.
Give me an M500, and I'll do it :)

trufret December 20th, 2005 23:54

Full auto might not be too doable becaue of the heat generated from rapid fire. thats why this un is pump action and not even semi. Although think of the aplication for snipers and shotguns. you could have the easy of use of a gas bolt action sniper without having to worry about temperature and your velocity should be allot more stable. I this this could be a huge step forward for bolt action sniper rifles

Cheesevillage December 20th, 2005 23:57

To combat the heating issue there would need to be multiple smaller chambers which empty into each other, and possibly some Cu or Al cooling fins.

-Cheese

Bob the Angry Potato December 20th, 2005 23:59

Hmm... sounds difficult, but doable. It'd take time, though, and I'd expect these to run at about 700 dollars for a full mechanism...
However, if someone could get this done and sell it to a company...


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