Guarder or Systema FTK?
 

I was planning on getting some basic upgrades such as metal bearings, a sp110 spring, bearing spring guide, and maybe some reinforced standard gears. I would also end up getting a m4a1 cylinder due to the new longer barrel I was going to run through the silencer on my MP5 RAS. Anyways, for the price that all these things cost, it was very close to the price tag of the Guarder FTK ($124.99). I had not heard of these ftk's before. I know systema ftk's ($199.99)are kinda the standard here as they have been proven to be great products. I also have heard great things about some of the guarder upgrade products. I was wondering:

1. If anyone had personal experience with the Guarder FTK's or if they could point me to a review.
2. Which one would you get given the $75 difference in price tags? Is the systema worth that much extra cash?

May as well buy one of the complete systema mechboxes. They are quite nice.

I second the idea of getting a complete mech box, it's what I'm considering myself for later on. Consider the little extra money spent towards not having to crack open the pain that is a mech box.

Ok, well I have opened many mechboxes before so that is not the issue. I just wanted to know which one was better and if the systema was worth the extra $75

The systema is probably not worth the extra because there springs are very stiff. They are prone to breaking after a short time. Guarder makes great products overal. You will be satisfied.

I dunno about that... I find Guarder springs to be even stiffer than Systema springs.

Systema springs also perform with very consistent velocity outputs. Guarder, not so much.

Also, little things such as squareness in gear axles (the Guarder spur gears are known to be off-canter right out of the box).

Me thinks ya mean off-camber :grin:

you're right. that's the word i was looking for.

but i looked it up and it's still not the right word.

Basically what I meant is that the axle wasn't square to the surface of the gears.

I hope Guarder tries to rectify the problem...

I my self get all the best parts made and out then in.