RED-DOT - the one to buy
 

OK,

at www.1337tactical.com they have knock off accessories for the real steel at airsoft prices.

the red dot is better quality than the airsoft stuff.

Hans

www.marstar.ca has red-dots that are more than fine enough for airsoft.

airsoft gun accuracy is really poor, and most knock-off airsoft products are very good quality.

I've been using a Tasco 35mm Red Dot sight on my MP5 the past two years, never had any problems with it at all and has always worked, even though abused at times. For a $35 RDS............. that's pretty damn good!

I find AEG accuracy about as good as a real steal pistol, both for accuracy and effective range. I know for sure, the accuracy is far better than any paintball gun!. So anyway, in that way, a red dot site is perfect for AEG's I believe. I'm getting one for my TMAK47. I see "Crossman" ones at Canadian Tire for $20. Anyone get one of these? if so, do you get what you pay for... being so cheap? :salute:

hahahahahahahaha. I take it you have NEVER shot a real gun before... or even a .177/.22 pellet gun for that matter.

Going with anything not brand name implies risk. There's a reason cheap knockoffs don't have warranties. Burris is reputed to be great value, warranty, and performance. The cheapest dot sights that function are meant for use at a range, occasionally. Repeated long-term use subject to bumps, temperature changes, humidity, even submersion and occasional dropping, you want quality. And you know it's quality if there's a warranty.

As well, higher quality optics are more forgiving with parallax, http://www.bullseyepistol.com/dotsight.htm and the mounting attaching the optic has to be rock-solid and not loosen up.

Of course, you get what you pay for but there's diminishing returns when you get to the very top of the line.

i find the acog scope to be very good

Considering that a real pistol can shoot in the same hole at 25 meters, your statement is severely uninformed.
You do get what you pay for.
You really should read some more about this sport...

LOL.... hmmm... before you and your little buddy up there start flaming away like assholes, perhaps you should know who you are talking too. You claim my statement is "severely uninformed" (what are you- 20 years old? LOL!) I used to work for an Armoured Car company. I've shot many handguns. I've been in a REAL GUNFIGHT, but that's beside the point. I have a restricted and non-restricted P.A.L. and been through so much handgun training it's stupid. I can tell you, an AEG is very much the same as a handgun in >EFFECTIVE< range (find out what effective range means on your own, I don't feel like explaining it - a common 9mm pistol or .38 revolver has the effective range of...100ft - yes that's right), and accuracy - accuracy due to recoil, of which an AEG has none and a pistol has enough to make even a head shot at 30 feet almost impossible. Triple that under stress. Because of that, the accuracy is very similar. Don't believe me? Try to get a head shot on a human size target at 30 feet with a AEG and a real steal pistol. It will be easy with your Assault rifle AEG. Very very difficult with a pistol.
God you guys. You think because you are into Airsoft, you are some big bad-ass know-it-alls. Fuckin idiots. :zzz:

HAHAHA. Maybe you should check Grey's credentials...there are a few of the members on this board that have been deployed, many of us have a decent amount of experience with real steel. Greylocks has a LIFETIME's worth.

despite all that has been said. I still dont think greylocks could "shoot in the same hole at 25 meters" airsoft or not 8)

Yeah , neir , you're a God and we suck.

Really Neir? Tell you what, go to the RA Center in Ottawa. Look at the plaques on the wall and the records posted. Go to any range where folks do this often for that matter, maybe you'll learn something.

Shooting in the same hole at 25 yards is pretty much normal at that level, to the point that magnifying glasses are needed to differentiate the holes.

The rifle "10" ring is the size of a pin-head, and the caliber used is .22, so do the math.
The handgun version is the size of a dime. When the caliber used is .32, .38, or larger the same problem happens.

On a large caliber rifle, it is quite possible to shoot groups under one inch at 100 yards, or even better; groups where all the bullet holes touch each other or merge into a hole about 1.5 times the diameter of the caliber used.

Shooting in the same hole with an airsoft gun is a miracle, and I never claimed that.

So how about you practice for another 20 years or so, and tell me about what is possible? Because right now, I have more experience shooting real guns than you have breathing.

lol, so true. dissing the guy who prolly spends more time then anyone ata gun range about shooting. lolz

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