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Amos August 28th, 2006 20:33

edit: Can you get a Systema Full Mechbox over the border without problem?
 
Hello, I'd like some one to please take a look at what I plan on doing to my TM M16 VN. I'd like to know if there's a problem with using certain parts in corrilation with other parts.

Edit: I'm going to get a full systema kit and save myself 410 dollars...

THE ONLY THING I NEED TO KNOW NOW IS: Can you get a full mechbox over the border and into canada without any trouble?

I'm also aware, I'm not legal age yet; But I'm finding out the information now, so that I'll be knowledgeable about the subject... and have an Idea on what to buy.

Any Suggestions?

Droc August 28th, 2006 20:41

save money and get a systema complete mechbox
save more money and get a FMU armalite...TM armalite bodies usually dont last a single season.

R.A.T.M._JLD August 28th, 2006 20:43

In two years time some or even all might go out of sell, stop making them or out of date. It is good that you trying to do research but thing can change from now to then. A&A dose order in custom M16VNs from WGC, talk to one of them and see what they put into them. There is also a topic that talks about them.

Kid August 28th, 2006 20:43

I highly suggest that you either stick with the simple spring and bushing for now, or just go heavy and get a Systema full mechbox for about $250-$300.

Another option is the WGC SHOP Custom M16VN made of G&P parts, it will shoot about 380FPS stock and have a good amount if not all of what you have on that list, for about $650.

Google reviews on G&P guns for more info. WGC SHOP has some info and A&A Airsoft was stocking them... so you might want to email them.

I was looking into a VN, so that's why I mention that.

The G&P is also good because it has a metal body, no barrel wobble, and it generally looks awesome and just shoots awesome too... there are some internal things that people don't like about G&P, but if it breaks, they are about $25 or less to fix, so it's not a big deal.

The TM also has problems with a weird hopup and a wobbly barrel... etc.

Primus August 28th, 2006 20:44

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Originally Posted by Droc
save more money and get a FMU armalite...TM armalite bodies usually dont last a single season.

Wow, that's one hell of a statement, I guess my 3 year old stock TM body is a fluke of nature?!?

Amos August 28th, 2006 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droc
save money and get a systema complete mechbox
save more money and get a FMU armalite...TM armalite bodies usually dont last a single season.

... Is there a problem getting Systema Mechboxes imported in?

And, Is there a reliable website that sells Systema Complete Mechboxes?

Amos August 28th, 2006 20:48

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Originally Posted by R.A.T.M._JLD
In two years time some or even all might go out of sell, stop making them or out of date. It is good that you trying to do research but thing can change from now to then. A&A dose order in custom M16VNs from WGC, talk to one of them and see what they put into them. There is also a topic that talks about them.

I turn 17 in less then a week, So It's one years time... And you're right.. There'll probobly be more kits... and different things in a year's time.

I already have a TM M16VN (I know I shouldn't. But I had to jump @ the offer from my neighbor. Full thing w/ battery, charger and 2 mags for 300 bucks) Although I do respect the rules and Don't fire it outside of my home. (I've got a BB trap set up)

Goldman August 28th, 2006 20:48

WGC Custom AEGS are just re-branded/homebew G&P AEGs. Sadly sometimes it takes them INSANE amounts of time to get you one, if they deliver at all.

Red Ghost August 28th, 2006 20:59

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Originally Posted by Primus
Quote:

Originally Posted by Droc
save more money and get a FMU armalite...TM armalite bodies usually dont last a single season.

Wow, that's one hell of a statement, I guess my 3 year old stock TM body is a fluke of nature?!?


As my year and a half old SR16 body must be. Then again, I don't use my armalite as a club either.

At any rate, It seems like a lot of parts to be throwing in all at once. Just my $0.01 [long day at work]

Droc August 28th, 2006 20:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primus
Quote:

Originally Posted by Droc
save more money and get a FMU armalite...TM armalite bodies usually dont last a single season.

Wow, that's one hell of a statement, I guess my 3 year old stock TM body is a fluke of nature?!?

depends on the use I guess.
Maby its because I dont baby my gun on the field(more time using the gun then getting into character I guess).
More often then not, tabs break, barrel wobble risks front end loss.

But I honestly can count on one hand the number of people I know with new TM armalites that dont bust body tabs or have barrel wobble so bad it needs a new reciever.

Reality is, anyone who puts hard use into a TM armalite will need to replace the reciever sooner rather then later.
Cost of new TM + cost of new reciever = more then the cost of a ICS/CA/G&P FMU armalite.
IMHO, unless you like tossing money down the drain, TM armalites are bad investments.

Amos August 28th, 2006 21:01

I'm liking the idea of being able to buy an entire upgraded mechbox... Is there a site that anyone here's used before that sells them? ... That'll probobly save me a chunk of change... Because the upgrade I had planned is a nice 608.50... Not including the gun.

Droc August 28th, 2006 21:09

WGC and UNC do them. Even if ASCA doesnt list it, they can get their hands on most anything you need. I think they run $400
considering they are perfectly shimmed, its prolly worth it.
parts are only as good as their installation...and with systema doing it all...cant go wrong

Primus August 28th, 2006 21:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Droc
depends on the use I guess.
Maby its because I dont baby my gun on the field(more time using the gun then getting into character I guess).
More often then not, tabs break, barrel wobble risks front end loss.

But I honestly can count on one hand the number of people I know with new TM armalites that dont bust body tabs or have barrel wobble so bad it needs a new reciever.

Reality is, anyone who puts hard use into a TM armalite will need to replace the reciever sooner rather then later.
Cost of new TM + cost of new reciever = more then the cost of a ICS/CA/G&P FMU armalite.
IMHO, unless you like tossing money down the drain, TM armalites are bad investments.

Yes, that must be the reason because as everyone knows I don't spend 1 minute playing airsoft. Probably has nothing to do with the fact that I actually know how to take care of my guns.

Ohh and do tell who are these handful of people? Anyone with more than 5 years experience in the sport? Just wondering.

Droc August 28th, 2006 21:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primus
Quote:

Originally Posted by Droc
depends on the use I guess.
Maby its because I dont baby my gun on the field(more time using the gun then getting into character I guess).
More often then not, tabs break, barrel wobble risks front end loss.

But I honestly can count on one hand the number of people I know with new TM armalites that dont bust body tabs or have barrel wobble so bad it needs a new reciever.

Reality is, anyone who puts hard use into a TM armalite will need to replace the reciever sooner rather then later.
Cost of new TM + cost of new reciever = more then the cost of a ICS/CA/G&P FMU armalite.
IMHO, unless you like tossing money down the drain, TM armalites are bad investments.

Yes, that must be the reason because as everyone knows I don't spend 1 minute playing airsoft. Probably has nothing to do with the fact that I actually know how to take care of my guns.

Ohh and do tell who are these handful of people? Anyone with more than 5 years experience in the sport? Just wondering.

easy there big fella, didnt mean to offened your elitness. :salute:

knowing how to take care of a gun and knowing that the plastic TM reciever on the armalites is stupidly weak are two different things.
Regardless of how long you have been in airsoft, it doesnt chage the fact that TM armalite body tabs are known to break.
Doesnt take 5 years experience to know the flaws of plastic bodies.

Amos August 28th, 2006 21:24

I'll go with Droc on this one. One of my tabs is already broken... And I have never feilded my gun. (although my neighbor probobly did.)

Edit: I also think that the "Not lasting a single season" is a little exadurated...


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