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ecsinc September 9th, 2007 17:38

Stock Piston, New gears?
 
I reciently had a event and ran threw ALL my ammo. I used about 1,000-1,500 rounds on my Semi auto only gun shooting 435-440fps w/.2's. I just got done taking my gun appart a week later and there is absolutely NO wear on any of the piston teeth.
The piston is a stock JG piston which I believe is a stock TM piston. It's amazing, I though I'd strip it while on stock gears and a M130 spring...

Now, next part. I want more Fps... I'm thinking of buying Hurricane Ultra Torque up gears (http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=18405) Then probably a Area 1000 half toothed piston. I have a M140 spring but if I'm allowed to go upto 500fps I'd like to use a M150 which will get me real close to 500fps.

My gearbox had no problems last week. There are pretty much no signs of stress marks on where a usual Version 2 gearbox breaks.

Let me know how good Hurricane gears are. I though about Guarder gears (http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=23032) but they seem real cheap for some odd reason...
Also I want to get a silent Piston head. I already have the cylinder head I just need the piston head...is there some place where I can get just the piston head?

ILLusion September 9th, 2007 17:57

You might want to check your trigger's electrical contacts to make sure you're not burning holes in to it. I recently burned through a set of contacts on a gun I was using to test a Systema M130 spring.

Upgrade to torqued up gears asap before you start firing a lot in semi-auto again.

DSFD506 September 9th, 2007 20:45

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Originally Posted by ecsinc (Post 533658)
I though about Guarder gears (http://redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/ai...l?prodID=23032) but they seem real cheap for some odd reason...

I have these gears in my M4 with a 463fps spring and have had no problems with them. If your trying to get the maximum FPS out of it, go with a Bore up cylinder kit, M150 spring, Magnum motor, and tightbore barrel. Most events though have a maximum FPS limit and for an aeg I think 500fps is gonna be over the limit. As far as burning the holes Illusion, wouldn't it be his best interest to install a mosfet ?

ThunderCactus September 9th, 2007 22:20

let's ask a more important question: why do you want 500fps?

TokyoSeven September 9th, 2007 22:43

Did you notice his location?
People in the states may not abide by the same fps rules we commonly follow.

As for your gearbox/mechbox, continue to check up on it. Its not the the upgrades you have will destroy it but they will cause it to wear down alot faster. Just like reenforced mechbox's their not invincible they just take longer to break.

ILLusion September 10th, 2007 00:14

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Originally Posted by DSFD506 (Post 533763)
I have these gears in my M4 with a 463fps spring and have had no problems with them. If your trying to get the maximum FPS out of it, go with a Bore up cylinder kit, M150 spring, Magnum motor, and tightbore barrel. Most events though have a maximum FPS limit and for an aeg I think 500fps is gonna be over the limit. As far as burning the holes Illusion, wouldn't it be his best interest to install a mosfet ?

Yup. Indeed, a MOSFET would negate the possibility of burning holes in your trigger plates.

Ronan September 10th, 2007 01:13

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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus (Post 533819)
let's ask a more important question: why do you want 500fps?

When i played in NY and NC.

Bolt Action 600fps
Semi 500fps
auto 450fps
Indoor 400fps. <--Sometimes it was the same rules as outside... fucking hurts.

Keep in mind the fields were pretty small. Biggest i played on was about the size of the one in St Calixte. Imho it's the American mentality. They want the max/best/coolest even tho they don't need it. 600fps Bolt Action snipers... freaking nuts. The worst was indoor by far.

ecsinc September 12th, 2007 22:44

Can someone please explain to me how torque up gears exactly have a different ratio? I've been looking at a bunch of gears and I can't find a size difference between the gears to change the ratio.
I only noticed that the infinity torque up gears actually have a different size gear, thats why you can only use a half toothed piston. I always thought that changing ratio's involved changing the actual diameter of 2 or more gears but it looks to me like thats not the case. I also herd that more teeth change the torque ratio???
Maybe I skipped gear class but I'm kind of lost onto how they can be different ratio's and yet the gears are the same diameter? Or maybe my eyesight is off and the gears are actually all different sizes? Maybe a diagram would be good??? I just find myself lost on this part...

What brand do you recommend? I don't plan on using my gun alot, probably once a month at most... I'm looking for something cheap!

ILLusion September 13th, 2007 00:05

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Originally Posted by ecsinc (Post 535783)
Can someone please explain to me how torque up gears exactly have a different ratio? I've been looking at a bunch of gears and I can't find a size difference between the gears to change the ratio.
I only noticed that the infinity torque up gears actually have a different size gear, thats why you can only use a half toothed piston. I always thought that changing ratio's involved changing the actual diameter of 2 or more gears but it looks to me like thats not the case. I also herd that more teeth change the torque ratio???
Maybe I skipped gear class but I'm kind of lost onto how they can be different ratio's and yet the gears are the same diameter? Or maybe my eyesight is off and the gears are actually all different sizes? Maybe a diagram would be good??? I just find myself lost on this part...

What brand do you recommend? I don't plan on using my gun alot, probably once a month at most... I'm looking for something cheap!

The number of teeth between the bevel gear & spur gear, as well as between the spur gear and sector gear are different to adjust the torque/rpm levels.

vondnik September 18th, 2007 21:15

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Originally Posted by Ronan (Post 533925)
When i played in NY and NC.

Bolt Action 600fps
Semi 500fps
auto 450fps
Indoor 400fps. <--Sometimes it was the same rules as outside... fucking hurts.

Keep in mind the fields were pretty small. Biggest i played on was about the size of the one in St Calixte. Imho it's the American mentality. They want the max/best/coolest even tho they don't need it. 600fps Bolt Action snipers... freaking nuts. The worst was indoor by far.

Well on the plus side they must not to mutch problems with people not calling their hits. And that is nothing... Played with a guy from Sweden that was working in montreal and his CQP p90 was rigged with a systema m150, super torque gears and a 12 volt remote pack.... Outch....brutal mabie but absolutly no issues with not calling hits.

It's all a mather of perspective and habit. Your gameplay changes a lot when the gun shooting at you in full auto no more than 15 feet away is incrusting BB's in the plywood.

For 2 years I was running a 525ish fps ( with .36g) sniper rifle and not one complaint. I never hid that my gun was hot and if it bothered someone I did not play with it that day.

Ronan September 18th, 2007 21:28

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Originally Posted by vondnik (Post 538815)
Well on the plus side they must not to mutch problems with people not calling their hits. And that is nothing... Played with a guy from Sweden that was working in montreal and his CQP p90 was rigged with a systema m150, super torque gears and a 12 volt remote pack.... Outch....brutal mabie but absolutly no issues with not calling hits.

It's all a mather of perspective and habit. Your gameplay changes a lot when the gun shooting at you in full auto no more than 15 feet away is incrusting BB's in the plywood.

For 2 years I was running a 525ish fps ( with .36g) sniper rifle and not one complaint. I never hid that my gun was hot and if it bothered someone I did not play with it that day.

Makes suicidal assaults a thing of the past :D


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