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hattrick November 10th, 2009 19:29
AI propane adaptor RIPPED OFF
 
evike will be stocking this rip off of the AI propane adaptor. I'm aware madbull or somthing made their own version. (though I'm under the impression they made theirs from scratch and it uses a diffferent system)


This on the other hand is blasphemy!


http://www.airsoftpost.com/product_i...ducts_id=30290

coach November 10th, 2009 19:35
they're all knock offs of Carl's AI adapter. There's quite a few of them out there actually.

Shirley November 10th, 2009 19:39
We all know the propane adaptor was made by MadMax Carl from AI in Canada.
So was hockey too. :) Damn Americans.

MoreToasties November 10th, 2009 19:41
The nerve.

First the zipper, now this?

Ronan November 10th, 2009 19:43
Quote:
I have a similar (metal) adapter to this, it works fine. I also have the AI plastic, that works great too. Unless you totaly scratch up or deform your adapter, or drop it or whatever, this should work fine. Yes it's metal, but it's machined and polished. If you can't get this to work, have someone experienced train you. Or stick with electrics and springers.
Oh wow.

Styrak November 10th, 2009 21:51
These have been around for a while.
I'm actually going to be stocking some metal propane adapters in about a week or two as well.

MadMax November 11th, 2009 01:46
Stay away from that knockoff of my V4 adaptor. They screwed up the spring design so it falls out and the tip is missing a feature which gives a good connection to the mag fill valve. It shoots a bunch of gas everywhere when you try to use it. You'll note that my original V4 design had a different diameter at the outer end of the spring. This diameter centred with the valve opening on a propane tank so the spring didn't bind with the probe. I went thru some considerable expense to get this feature done to prevent occasional spring bind which sometimes prevented proper opening of the tank valve.

I periodically buy knockoffs of my products to see what kind of crap I'm up against in the field.

So far, I've found that the Madbull adaptors aren't bad. I actually like their design. I wanted to go with a valved adaptor way back when, but didn't have the machining capacity to make it so I developed the simpler moving probe adaptor to save on machining costs. Madbull went out of their way to go with their own design principle. I do hear that they've had problems with the thread sizing on their adaptors from time to time.

The KJW yellow knockoffs eventually fall apart. The plastic ring which holds the probe in falls off and turns into a four piece adaptor.

kullwarrior November 11th, 2009 02:37
I thought the propane adapter is patented?

aznpos531 November 11th, 2009 03:15
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Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 1102510)
Stay away from that knockoff of my V4 adaptor. They screwed up the spring design so it falls out and the tip is missing a feature which gives a good connection to the mag fill valve. It shoots a bunch of gas everywhere when you try to use it. You'll note that my original V4 design had a different diameter at the outer end of the spring. This diameter centred with the valve opening on a propane tank so the spring didn't bind with the probe. I went thru some considerable expense to get this feature done to prevent occasional spring bind which sometimes prevented proper opening of the tank valve.
I always wondered why that was. Now I know!

Stocko November 11th, 2009 11:23
i dunno but when i saw the title of this thread I thought your adapter really "literally" ripped off. I was gonna say holy sh*t!

ILLusion November 12th, 2009 11:41
Quote:
Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 1102510)
Stay away from that knockoff of my V4 adaptor. They screwed up the spring design so it falls out and the tip is missing a feature which gives a good connection to the mag fill valve. It shoots a bunch of gas everywhere when you try to use it. You'll note that my original V4 design had a different diameter at the outer end of the spring. This diameter centred with the valve opening on a propane tank so the spring didn't bind with the probe. I went thru some considerable expense to get this feature done to prevent occasional spring bind which sometimes prevented proper opening of the tank valve.
Are you sure you want to be telling your competition how to "fix" their product to make it better? lol

Crunchmeister November 12th, 2009 13:38
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Originally Posted by kullwarrior (Post 1102526)
I thought the propane adapter is patented?
Can't say if it is or isn't, but when has that every stopped Chinese companies from flooding the market with knockoffs?

Skruface November 12th, 2009 23:48
While I only own Carl's products, I find it incredibly humorous that people who have no problem buying cheap Chinese clones of TM designs are bitching about buying cheap Chinese clones of Carl's designs.

Just sayin.

Bissa November 13th, 2009 00:27
because they are loyal Canadians who don't want to see another Canadians work ripped off.

FOX_111 November 13th, 2009 01:00
When one of those knock off adapter explode and send it's probe shooting in someone eye, people will learn what is safe to clone and what's not.

The AI adapter rock. I got one of the first version, I don't know wich, and I want to buy the newer plastic version.


I'm not afraid of propane much, but when dealing with pressurised flamable and stinky gas, I prefer a product that is well designed to handle it.


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