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Originally Posted by cetane
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Yeah thats me. Like I said, I've been posting this all over looking for further opinions. To me its just interesting hearing what you guys have to say about it. Considering the standards you hold for the realistic look of your equipment.
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Originally Posted by brock0
You wanted opinion, the opinion is that you're trolling by first post asking about paintball kit and what the airsoft world thinks of it. If you read carefully, I said that if I posted paintball look-a-like airsoft guns in a paintball forum that I felt nobody would care.
In my opinion, your finned ammo adds more fuel the argument that paintball is all about how much money you put into your marker and paint and there is a much larger disparity in quality of gear than there is in airsoft. It also says to me that despite what people say about cost, paintball is probably going to cost far more than airsoft in the long run, one more reason to prefer airsoft.
In my opinion it's very interesting that paintball markers are moving to a somewhat more realistic gun look. I think they're trying to appeal to players interested in more GEAR "realism", an area in which I feel airsoft is the much stronger game.
You'll find less than ideal players in either sport no argument there, but if my half dozen paintball experiences tell me anything, it's that I'd be OK if paintballers stayed interested in paintball and not in airsoft. This topic has come up before and I don't recall hearing from many posters who play both, or who went back to paintball after trying airsoft. You scoff when I say it's a kids game, but if you had to make an educated guess, how old is the average paintball enthusiast? Be honest with yourself.
I'm glad there is some quality gear out there for paintballers, but it would take a lot more than a finned paintball or a quasi realistic marker to make me want to play it. Just personal opinion.
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I'm pretty sure I mentioned airsoft will always be cheaper than paintball. If I haven't, I completely agree. Other companies are coming out with cheaper shaped rounds for other applications. Like I said, these are a sniper round and if you don't try and shoot 7 mags of 20 rounds each game, a box last all day for cheaper than a case of paint. A box of 100 first strike cost $40, as a sniper that will last all day. A box of Rap4 shaped rounds are supposed to be $13 for a box of 100 (f that is the capacity they come). You can buy a decent amount of those for your normal rifleman style load out.
As far as average age, that really depends on what side of paintball you look at. Speedball for example, definitely is on the lower side. Kids in their mid to late teens dominate that and they start pretty young (early teens). Sadly, thats also where you see the shittiest attitudes. Woodsball as a whole has a very broad age range. Much harder to nail down an average and mag fed so far has a much higher age rate simply because the gear does get expensive. Even though there is entry level gear like speedball. But there is less of it and what is entry level, isnt as "tacticool" as the mid and hi end stuff.
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Originally Posted by ThunderCactus
Brock, be nice. There's no need to flame the guy for showing us something cool.
Cetane, ceramic ball bearings are pretty much indestructible. When a ceramic bearing fails, it's because the ceramic balls have dented the steel races. The bearing explodes and the balls are still perfectly round. I'm curious to know how similar in performance to silica BBs those would be.
Also as I had mentioned before, the idea of rifled shuttlecock rounds does not work nearly as well in theory as hopup does on a spheroid. And it HAS been done in practice, and performs even worse.
The reason for this is because the projectiles are so light, any spin on them is very prone to the magnus effect. So whereas backspin (hopup) on a BB will cause it to lift up into the air, rifling will cause it to veer off sharply in a given direction.
Non rifled shuttlecock rounds will fly more accurately than non spinning spheroids, but they won't go as far due to the increased drag.
Backspin stabilizes the spheroid and allows it to physically lift up through the air, producing a very accurate and flat trajectory over very long distances.
I want you to think really hard about just how small a 6mm BB is, and just how light .30g is, and then understand just how significant it is for that tiny lightweight projectile to fly 260 to 300ft at a muzzle energy of only 1.6 joules and have someone notice the impact. |
I'm not at all trying to put down airsoft and the range you guys get out of them. Before First strike, thats what I always envied. But airsoft just isn't that prominent here in NYC to really get into it. Yeah there are players, but there are no near by fields. I was exposed to both at the same time. And years later I just ended up playing paintball first I guess. I would do both if I could. School and work don't leave much time for two money and time consuming hobbies on top of other life things lol. I can definitely see it in the future. But I just feel like i enjoy the postive feedback of a round breaking on target that paintball gives. Thats just my opinion of course.