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Old November 2nd, 2005, 22:53   #19
tradewindrider
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: HK
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Originally Posted by thePiRaTE!!
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Originally Posted by JoeyJackhammer
on the ICS, the whole upper mechbox comes out, whereas the Systema PTW's, just the cylinder comes out, and it much more compact then carrying an extra upper mechbox around with you. Imagine being able to carry all 3 cylinders on you, and being able to change the range of your gun in seconds, even during a fire fight. why buy 3-4 TM's when you can buy 1 PTW and have 3 guns in one? And an extremely sweet one at that.

I've just about sold myself on it with this idea and the fact its 'pre-upgraded' systema FMU everything. If you look at it from a value stand-point, its actually a good deal. Its worthy of noting for those not aware that it uses proprietary internals and magazines too, so you'll need to get another batch of (more expensive) mags as well, easily boosting the price a few hundred more bucks on top of things. My two concerns are service/parts and... how to get one? All the retailers in Hong Kong that have replied to me have said that they have no plans to carry version 3's at this time, and are only sitting on older versions. They aren't for sale from anywhere in the US. The last choice is from Systema directly, which is what I'm waiting for answers on at this point. The idea of owning a version 3 might be moot at this point anyways.
I am in the same boat with you. I am from Hongkong and would love to get my hands on the PTW as well.

I sense that PTW is not too attractive to the HK retailerss because of the price tag of the gun. Some of the customer like us might think its affordable, but many others don't.

In a retailer point of view:
1) These PTW don't sell very well
2) They still have older gen stocks in their inventory and unable to estimate when they can clear them all out
3) Systema made a stance that the 3rd gen is not open for public
4) PTW is too user friendly, there are not much upgrades that you need to purchase from the retailers. Also, PTW is durable, retailers have much less chance to earn the "service fee" from customer.
5) Low sales volume. Retailer pay more to import the stocks, but the stocks didn't go very well. It maybe cause by general customer purchasing behavior. There are more people Leasing a car than buying out a car in 1 shot. Not maybe people are willing to buy PTW with the same logic.

I am not LE and have no idea how to get a gen3 PTW at this moment. Is it really possible to buy them from Systema directly?
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