Airsoft Canada - View Single Post - M4 Decision, Airsoft Team out of Las Vegas

UKAirsoftNick · April 5th, 2006, 17:14

The short answer is the ICS M4 is a good starting unit. If its upgraded by the shop you will have no problems. It has as much metal as the real M4 and is a rugged reliable newcomer to the AEG Assualt Carbine Market. It wouldnt need much upgrade. One point though, In the UK for example over 328 fps (100ms) is illegal. Are you sure with 400 FPS your weapons will be legal? and even if they are legal alot of sites have rules prohibiting over 350 FPS?

Personally, for that price i would buy 4 L85's and 2 L86 Light support weapons. The brilliance of this is you'd have 2 LSW's with massive barrels, they'd be properly made with no need for upgrade AND all the parts for your L85's would be interchangable with your L86's. Again they have as much metal as the real steel versions. You could even go for more variety and get 2 x L85 A2 standards, 2 x L85 A2 Carbines (for intense CQB) and 2 x L86 A2's for Light support.

They'd be what you want out the box for the same price and be bullpup to. People talk bullpup down but its not a matter of opinion - bullpup designs are mechanically and technologically superior to standard magazine pistol grip arrangements, the Colt M4 is an obselete design. For the same barrel length as an M4 your L85A2 would be about 6" shorter. Your LSW's would be proper light support guns capable of both High rate of fire for supression and sniper roles. A nice multipurpose AEG.

April 5th, 2006, 17:14	#4
UKAirsoftNick Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sussex UK	The short answer is the ICS M4 is a good starting unit. If its upgraded by the shop you will have no problems. It has as much metal as the real M4 and is a rugged reliable newcomer to the AEG Assualt Carbine Market. It wouldnt need much upgrade. One point though, In the UK for example over 328 fps (100ms) is illegal. Are you sure with 400 FPS your weapons will be legal? and even if they are legal alot of sites have rules prohibiting over 350 FPS? Personally, for that price i would buy 4 L85's and 2 L86 Light support weapons. The brilliance of this is you'd have 2 LSW's with massive barrels, they'd be properly made with no need for upgrade AND all the parts for your L85's would be interchangable with your L86's. Again they have as much metal as the real steel versions. You could even go for more variety and get 2 x L85 A2 standards, 2 x L85 A2 Carbines (for intense CQB) and 2 x L86 A2's for Light support. They'd be what you want out the box for the same price and be bullpup to. People talk bullpup down but its not a matter of opinion - bullpup designs are mechanically and technologically superior to standard magazine pistol grip arrangements, the Colt M4 is an obselete design. For the same barrel length as an M4 your L85A2 would be about 6" shorter. Your LSW's would be proper light support guns capable of both High rate of fire for supression and sniper roles. A nice multipurpose AEG.