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Originally Posted by Rumpel Felt
What is with the TM fanboyism?? All they do is rape you for less like Gryphon said. They are way over rated; within themselves and compared to other manufacturers.
I just confidently bought my 5th or is it 6th CA gun and I'm a very have camper. I get a gun that is more powerful, comes with everything I need and nothing I don't need (cheasy literature I can't read, targets, fancy ass box), doesn't need to have every fucking piece on it upgraded to at least feel respectable and non-toyish....all for what it would cost me for a TM.
This "new" stuff is just lame. There's how many full WOOD and STEEL compact AK's out there now, that have all been proven quite reliable it seems and are generally just better in every way too. So now TM releases one that's almost certainly a hunk of plastic or cheasy pot metal (MAYBE, just maybe, aluminum if you're lucky), will shoot no more than 280fps and contain the minimal amount of parts to do that correctly. You'll have to buy a bunch of aftermarket externals and a load of internals that will likely put the cost over $1000....plus all the work, shipping costs and compatibility issues you'll get. Then you're left with a couple screws, levers, tubes and maybe a mechbox shell that you paid at least $500 for. Waste anyone?
This is the scenario with all TM guns. Which is why I never understood and still can't understand the TM fanboyism. And no they are NOT bullet proofly QC'ed either. There's plenty of cases of TM lemons out there. I'm willing to bet though that no one will go on an angry rant on the internet about it because they are thinking "well this must just be an extremely rare accident....after all, you can't go wrong with a TM"....
Well bullshit you can't go wrong! Buying one is the first step in the wrong direction most times! TM's are just wallet pimps. Since it's airsoft and we all know the urge to poor money into it....TM just makes the void to poor money into bigger with their minimal bang-for-buck mentality.
Only buy TM if someone else doesn't already make it better. Of course that takes some scouting and reasearch.
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well it's not TM fanboyism, for your info the only TM AEG I got left is my HK51 the rest of my stuff are all Modified G&P and Inokatsu. i used to own a lot of TM. the base of my argument is even though TM product are a lot inferior in power and aesthetics ie metal body than the China soft guns they are still better built out of the box than majority of them.
I don't know how much experience you had with CA or G&P but from my own experience all of my CA and G&P need some sort of work to make them shoot at their full potential especially the earlier CA stuff, i remember for every 5 CA metal bodies back then We have to haul out the heavy grinders just to make them fit flawlessly compared to the more expensive PMS or Systema metal bodies. Gump for one have fix countless CA and G&P guns out of the box not shooting or jamming, TM out of the box is flawless and in my book the only reason JG or any other higher end China soft guns shoot flawlessly out of the box are because they are the exact replica of TM. Companies like CA and G&P are far better now on their R&D and their QA than the other brand but compared to company like TM or Systema they are still behind.
In my comment I agree with Gryphon comment on how he much prefer to get a flawless clone than buying a TM and replacing just the broken parts or inferior parts that's fine, but there are still more problem out of the box for a TM clone than a genuine TM product. My statement is not a case of TM fanboyism as you stated but merely a fact from personal experience, God knows there are no love lost between me and TM I have probably broke More TM product than Poncho, and with all the broken M4, MP5, and those freakin V2 boxes since 89 I'll probably have enough parts to build an AEG for every player in Ontario