TM 5.1 gas spewing

juicy · February 5th, 2010, 16:43

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Originally Posted by Daiviet

Take it to a gun doc, I think that'd be the easier route. As nice as it is to try to figure out everything yourself, having someone experienced work on it and show you what was wrong may be a lot easier.

Agreed. There comes a point where fiddling is just a waste of time, and I think you're getting really close to it. Seeing as you really do want to learn - ask the gun doc if you can sit with him to watch the process of diagnosing what was done wrong and adjustments made.

turok_t · February 5th, 2010, 19:36

You know what, i think i have finally fixed it... im using the TM hop up rubber + my AS air nozzle now and i just refitted everything together. The reason why there was that "pout" in the lip of the firefly hop up before was because it was too long and didnt fit nicely in the groove of the chamber. So instead, im using the original hop up instead. In terms of the slide catch, i still dont know, but its working now.. i was trying to understand how the slide catch work and i just put some grease on it and doing some praying as well. but its working now.. thank god.. hopefully it doesnt mess up on me again

Slono · February 5th, 2010, 20:22

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Originally Posted by turok_t

You know what, i think i have finally fixed it... im using the TM hop up rubber + my AS air nozzle now and i just refitted everything together. The reason why there was that "pout" in the lip of the firefly hop up before was because it was too long and didnt fit nicely in the groove of the chamber. So instead, im using the original hop up instead. In terms of the slide catch, i still dont know, but its working now.. i was trying to understand how the slide catch work and i just put some grease on it and doing some praying as well. but its working now.. thank god.. hopefully it doesnt mess up on me again

Are you sure it was too long? It doesn't make sense that so many other people use it and it works fine. I haven't checked mine yet, but I think mine is fine too. Maybe it wasn't seated properly on the barrel... but that probably isn't it since I trust that you know at least that much that you'd seat it properly.

turok_t · February 5th, 2010, 20:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slono

Are you sure it was too long? It doesn't make sense that so many other people use it and it works fine. I haven't checked mine yet, but I think mine is fine too. Maybe it wasn't seated properly on the barrel... but that probably isn't it since I trust that you know at least that much that you'd seat it properly.

Yeah, i know.. it seems kinda funny that so many ppl use it and it doesnt work for me. I compared it with the regular TM hop up and its slightly longer and more soft so thats why when i fastened the 2 chamber screws, the bottom of the hop up was "pouting" and not forming a nice circle. Maybe mine is a defect, but im not sure. Right now, my gun is working fine- no misfeds, no bb dropping out, no gas spewing, and the slide catch is working. Here are the internals:

1. TM stock hop up rubber
2. Tanio Koba Twist
3. Airsoft Surgeon Loading Nozzle
4. CNC lightweight BBU
5. Guarder 150% recoil spring + hammer spring

So right now, everything seems to be fine.. I might order another firefly soft hop up if the hop up gives significant improvements. I've also got some more external parts coming overseas: grip, outer barrel, ambidextorous safety, grip safety. I hope these externals wont cause problems..

Shirley · February 5th, 2010, 20:45

It doesn't form a circle cause you got to push that part that pops up, in. Basically it's not sitting the the hop up groove.

From the pictures, just get a small flat head screw driver, push in the bottom. Push towards it, not down.

Slono · February 6th, 2010, 00:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by turok_t

Yeah, i know.. it seems kinda funny that so many ppl use it and it doesnt work for me. I compared it with the regular TM hop up and its slightly longer and more soft so thats why when i fastened the 2 chamber screws, the bottom of the hop up was "pouting" and not forming a nice circle. Maybe mine is a defect, but im not sure. Right now, my gun is working fine- no misfeds, no bb dropping out, no gas spewing, and the slide catch is working. Here are the internals:

1. TM stock hop up rubber
2. Tanio Koba Twist
3. Airsoft Surgeon Loading Nozzle
4. CNC lightweight BBU
5. Guarder 150% recoil spring + hammer spring

So right now, everything seems to be fine.. I might order another firefly soft hop up if the hop up gives significant improvements. I've also got some more external parts coming overseas: grip, outer barrel, ambidextorous safety, grip safety. I hope these externals wont cause problems..

Your internals are exactly like mine. And do what Mr. Hitman says, stuff the hop up rubber in. I had to do that.

turok_t · February 6th, 2010, 01:32

Yeah, now that i think about it, i think the main problem came from the hop up/chamber.. i have another firefly hop up on the way.. But thanks for all your help guys, especially you Slono.. I appreciate it alot.. I know im still a newb so im grateful for any assistance I can get..

Slono · February 6th, 2010, 01:47

I wasn't much help really, but I enjoy trying to help. I'm still learning too. These things don't come naturally to me so its beneficial for both of us to talk about it.

turok_t · February 6th, 2010, 03:32

Trust me, when i encounter more problems, i will update this post... so everyone can learn at the same time.. im hoping i wont encounter problems, but motivates us to learn..

Slono · February 6th, 2010, 03:34

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Originally Posted by turok_t

Trust me, when i encounter more problems, i will update this post... so everyone can learn at the same time.. im hoping i wont encounter problems, but motivates us to learn..

The next step for me is to get a chrony, otherwise I will never know how good my setup is, haha.

juicy · February 6th, 2010, 04:56

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Originally Posted by Slono

The next step for me is to get a chrony, otherwise I will never know how good my setup is, haha.

But muzzle velocity isn't everything!!!

turok_t · February 6th, 2010, 14:49

I have a quick question. After I insert a loaded magazine into my gun, i can manually cock back the hammer. When I fire, is a bb supposed to fire out? For me, a bb only fires out when i pull the slide back after inserting a magazine.

Slono · February 6th, 2010, 15:51

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Originally Posted by turok_t

I have a quick question. After I insert a loaded magazine into my gun, i can manually cock back the hammer. When I fire, is a bb supposed to fire out? For me, a bb only fires out when i pull the slide back after inserting a magazine.

No, no BB is supposed to come out if you just cock the hammer. Remember, the BBs chamber only when the loading nozzle scoops it up. So if you just cock it, you're readying the pistol to fire, but there's no BB to be fired.

Here's a thread created by yours truly a little while ago:

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthr...highlight=Rack

turok_t · February 6th, 2010, 16:50

oh thanks Slono, glad to know my gun is normal. Also, do most ppl put their hop up to the max setting? I realized that i need to keep it at max to prevent the bb from dropping out, but im worried that if its set too high, then the bb will spin up.

Daiviet · February 6th, 2010, 18:11

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Originally Posted by turok_t

oh thanks Slono, glad to know my gun is normal. Also, do most ppl put their hop up to the max setting? I realized that i need to keep it at max to prevent the bb from dropping out, but im worried that if its set too high, then the bb will spin up.

Depends on the hop up rubber. Honestly, bring your pistol to a gun doc, they'll tune it properly.

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February 5th, 2010, 20:45	#65
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	It doesn't form a circle cause you got to push that part that pops up, in. Basically it's not sitting the the hop up groove. From the pictures, just get a small flat head screw driver, push in the bottom. Push towards it, not down. __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047

February 6th, 2010, 01:47	#68
Slono Slow mo. Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: GTA	I wasn't much help really, but I enjoy trying to help. I'm still learning too. These things don't come naturally to me so its beneficial for both of us to talk about it. __________________ The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. - Martin Luther King, Jr.

February 5th, 2010, 19:36	#62
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	You know what, i think i have finally fixed it... im using the TM hop up rubber + my AS air nozzle now and i just refitted everything together. The reason why there was that "pout" in the lip of the firefly hop up before was because it was too long and didnt fit nicely in the groove of the chamber. So instead, im using the original hop up instead. In terms of the slide catch, i still dont know, but its working now.. i was trying to understand how the slide catch work and i just put some grease on it and doing some praying as well. but its working now.. thank god.. hopefully it doesnt mess up on me again

February 6th, 2010, 01:32	#67
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Yeah, now that i think about it, i think the main problem came from the hop up/chamber.. i have another firefly hop up on the way.. But thanks for all your help guys, especially you Slono.. I appreciate it alot.. I know im still a newb so im grateful for any assistance I can get..

February 6th, 2010, 03:32	#69
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Trust me, when i encounter more problems, i will update this post... so everyone can learn at the same time.. im hoping i wont encounter problems, but motivates us to learn..

February 6th, 2010, 14:49	#72
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	I have a quick question. After I insert a loaded magazine into my gun, i can manually cock back the hammer. When I fire, is a bb supposed to fire out? For me, a bb only fires out when i pull the slide back after inserting a magazine.

February 6th, 2010, 16:50	#74
turok_t Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	oh thanks Slono, glad to know my gun is normal. Also, do most ppl put their hop up to the max setting? I realized that i need to keep it at max to prevent the bb from dropping out, but im worried that if its set too high, then the bb will spin up.

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