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Old June 11th, 2012, 22:02   #331
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So something like this then? Also what do you use it with? A drill?

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Old June 11th, 2012, 22:03   #332
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So something like this then? Also what do you use it with? A drill?

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yup, its done by hand
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Old June 11th, 2012, 22:21   #333
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Do you need a vice too?
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Old June 11th, 2012, 22:24   #334
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Do you need a vice too?
It wouldn't hurt, but its not really needed.
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Old June 11th, 2012, 23:10   #335
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Then how do you keep your screw or screw hole steady etc and use any kind of torque with it?
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Old June 11th, 2012, 23:28   #336
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Then how do you keep your screw or screw hole steady etc and use any kind of torque with it?
i used my hands but like i said a vice will make it easier.
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Old June 12th, 2012, 12:21   #337
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If you want to do it properly, a drill press is best, matched with a self aligning tap handle and a pressure bit. Don't forget the cutting oil.

As for the tap itself, you don't need a full tap and die set. Dies are used for creating the male thread, which you'll have no need for in this case. If all you're doing is tapping a single hole and you have no need to tap other holes in the near foreseeable future, you can just buy a single tap for the thread you need and for your specific material (aluminum) from KBC Tools. They'll also carry the handles, pressure bit, and alignment tools, and you should be able to get all this for about the same price as that Ryobi tap & die set from Home Depot. If you want to go balls out, you can get a drill press from them too, but because of the weight, you could just grab it from your local Rona/Home Depot.... or just do it by hand. :P

The tap, you'll also want a bottoming tap, since the magazine is not a through-hole. Most taps are meant for through-holes. If you don't use a bottoming tap, you may not have enough thread length for the screw to go to depth.

As for the process, with bottoming holes, don't forget to use the "3 turns in, 1 turn out" rule to clear out all flash. If it packs in at the bottom, it can create problems, as well as create rough threads. And again, lots of cutting oil. Make sure you clean out all the cutting oil after you're done, as that stuff will melt rubber right before your very eyes.

Find the screw/bolt first, then get the tap to match it's specific thread. Once you find the tap, then search online drill size charts to get the matching drill bit (or in this case, a reamer is better) for that tap size to create the perfect hole. Again, KBC Tools should have the size you want, and with basic drill bits, you can find them for less than $3 at the exact size you need.

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Old June 12th, 2012, 12:58   #338
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If you want to do it properly, a drill press is best, matched with a self aligning tap handle and a pressure bit. Don't forget the cutting oil.

As for the tap itself, you don't need a full tap and die set. Dies are used for creating the male thread, which you'll have no need for in this case. If all you're doing is tapping a single hole and you have no need to tap other holes in the near foreseeable future, you can just buy a single tap for the thread you need and for your specific material (aluminum) from KBC Tools. They'll also carry the handles, pressure bit, and alignment tools, and you should be able to get all this for about the same price as that Ryobi tap & die set from Home Depot. If you want to go balls out, you can get a drill press from them too, but because of the weight, you could just grab it from your local Rona/Home Depot.... or just do it by hand. :P

The tap, you'll also want a bottoming tap, since the magazine is not a through-hole. Most taps are meant for through-holes. If you don't use a bottoming tap, you may not have enough thread length for the screw to go to depth.

As for the process, with bottoming holes, don't forget to use the "3 turns in, 1 turn out" rule to clear out all flash. If it packs in at the bottom, it can create problems, as well as create rough threads. And again, lots of cutting oil. Make sure you clean out all the cutting oil after you're done, as that stuff will melt rubber right before your very eyes.

Find the screw/bolt first, then get the tap to match it's specific thread. Once you find the tap, then search online drill size charts to get the matching drill bit (or in this case, a reamer is better) for that tap size to create the perfect hole. Again, KBC Tools should have the size you want, and with basic drill bits, you can find them for less than $3 at the exact size you need.
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Old July 20th, 2012, 15:35   #339
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what is the difference between the kc-02 version 1 and version 2? aside from the threaded barrel on the v1 and flip sights on v2, are there any other notable differences? any improvements to the insides, e.g. action etc
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Old July 20th, 2012, 15:45   #340
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what is the difference between the kc-02 version 1 and version 2? aside from the threaded barrel on the v1 and flip sights on v2, are there any other notable differences? any improvements to the insides, e.g. action etc
Im assuming you mean the one on Evike, if so no it has a longer mag and flip up sights.

The normal one also has the threaded barrel tip...

As for the insides, you cant improve on something thats already perfect
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Old July 20th, 2012, 15:52   #341
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Im assuming you mean the one on Evike, if so no it has a longer mag and flip up sights.

The normal one also has the threaded barrel tip...

As for the insides, you cant improve on something thats already perfect
Nah, I was looking at ehobby and uncompany, which both list version 1 and version 2. Actually, I just checked evike and it lists similar.

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Old July 20th, 2012, 15:58   #342
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Nah, I was looking at ehobby and uncompany, which both list version 1 and version 2. Actually, I just checked evike and it lists similar.

but thanks
The only advantage over the v2 would be the long mag but you dont need it. i use both types.
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Old August 17th, 2012, 23:38   #343
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K with all this talk about version 1 and version 2 i'm wondering what version i have cause i just my KJW ruger 10/22 a couple days ago and it has a threaded barrel, flip up sights and comes with a long mag instead of the short mag?
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If it comes with a short mag it's version 1. If it comes with a long mag and flip sights it's version 2.

The point is moot since the gun is identical anyway.
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Old August 17th, 2012, 23:57   #345
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If it comes with a short mag it's version 1. If it comes with a long mag and flip sights it's version 2.

The point is moot since the gun is identical anyway.
what he said

the inner workings of the gun are exactly the same, also i have yet to see one without the threaded tip. mine came with one and its a "version 1"
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