IR strobes and ITAR

Ozone06 · July 5th, 2011, 21:08

Well the question is If I order an IR strobe from the states could it be blocked due to ITAR restrictions?

I did a quick read and didn't see anything but it was a quick look.

Thanks!

Conker · July 5th, 2011, 21:20

Yes. They sometimes go through when bought on eBay, but usually stores just won't ship them outside CONUS.

Shirley · July 5th, 2011, 21:28

eBay is grey area. They will sell it to you, sometimes restricted to US only, sometimes Worldwide, but once they pass custom is a 50% chance.
Sure there are other ways that are illegal..

deltaop1 · July 5th, 2011, 22:35

@ Ozone06

Based on my recent research into NVG and IR technology many US sold products are ITAR restricted. Some American vendors won't sell outside of the US and others might but do so at your own risk of having it potentially stopped at the border by US Customs.

Having said that there are Canadian vendors that do sell both NVG and IR products. I'm not sure what form of IR IFF you are looking for but here are some Canadian products that you could buy:

CP Gear's Energizer taclights, they have IR IFF strobing capability

Seal Action Gear's Streamlight Sidewinder IR Taclight, it has IR IFF strobing capability

Hope this helps.

Ozone06 · July 5th, 2011, 22:45

Delta thanks for the links!

deltaop1 · July 5th, 2011, 22:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozone06

Delta thanks for the links!

:-)

Anything for a fellow team mate at Operation Rhino!

c3sk · July 5th, 2011, 23:15

Food for thought,

Ordering ITAR items from the US is a one way street for Canadians.

Canadian Customs are the ones inspecting all the items, not the US. ITAR isn't exactly in CBSA's direct mandate. In fact from my experience - they honestly don't care, unless it specifically breaks a Canadian importation law.

The individual who is going to get hit up for an ITAR fine, is the individual who attempted to export the item outside of the US without a valid license to export. They are the ones taking the risk, not the buyer.

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July 5th, 2011, 21:08	#1
Ozone06 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mississauga	IR strobes and ITAR Well the question is If I order an IR strobe from the states could it be blocked due to ITAR restrictions? I did a quick read and didn't see anything but it was a quick look. Thanks! __________________ “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” George Orwell To those Rough men... Thank You.

July 5th, 2011, 21:20	#2
Conker Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Canada / Ireland / USA	Yes. They sometimes go through when bought on eBay, but usually stores just won't ship them outside CONUS. __________________ WTS: King Arms/Madbull Mk18 Mod1 - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H midcap mags, FDE - VFC Mk17 SCAR-H + PWS rail, FDE WTB/WTT: CSOR gear, BFG, Tyr, Crye, etc

July 5th, 2011, 21:28	#3
Shirley A-56 aka Mr.Hitman Trader rating Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto, ON	eBay is grey area. They will sell it to you, sometimes restricted to US only, sometimes Worldwide, but once they pass custom is a 50% chance. Sure there are other ways that are illegal.. __________________ CANADIAN AIRSOFT PRACTICAL SHOOTING (CAPS) CAPS DIRECTOR # 0047

July 5th, 2011, 22:35	#4
deltaop1 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Greater Toronto Area, Ontario	@ Ozone06 Based on my recent research into NVG and IR technology many US sold products are ITAR restricted. Some American vendors won't sell outside of the US and others might but do so at your own risk of having it potentially stopped at the border by US Customs. Having said that there are Canadian vendors that do sell both NVG and IR products. I'm not sure what form of IR IFF you are looking for but here are some Canadian products that you could buy: CP Gear's Energizer taclights, they have IR IFF strobing capability Seal Action Gear's Streamlight Sidewinder IR Taclight, it has IR IFF strobing capability Hope this helps.

July 5th, 2011, 22:45	#5
Ozone06 Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Mississauga	Delta thanks for the links! __________________ “We sleep safe in our beds because rough men stand ready in the night to visit violence on those who would do us harm.” George Orwell To those Rough men... Thank You.

July 5th, 2011, 23:15	#7
c3sk (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ก็็็็็็็็็็็็็	Food for thought, Ordering ITAR items from the US is a one way street for Canadians. Canadian Customs are the ones inspecting all the items, not the US. ITAR isn't exactly in CBSA's direct mandate. In fact from my experience - they honestly don't care, unless it specifically breaks a Canadian importation law. The individual who is going to get hit up for an ITAR fine, is the individual who attempted to export the item outside of the US without a valid license to export. They are the ones taking the risk, not the buyer.

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