Inokatsu M4 CQBR M.T.W [Preliminary Review]

ILLusion · February 20th, 2009, 14:38

Awesome! An adjustable FPS bolt was exactly what was needed!

Brodie_BHD · February 20th, 2009, 14:53

Seems like a bit of a pain in the ass to guess how many turns and such to get the FPS you want.

Double Tapper · February 20th, 2009, 15:04

Easier then changing the springs in your AEG.

Dynamo · February 20th, 2009, 17:51

that is so awsome.
this is why i have switched to GBB guns, no more batteries, wire, fuses and that god forsaken gearbox.

the good thing about this design, is that you can adjust the FPS with no affect to the blowback. i cant wait to see whats going to happen when they finish the CO2 mags.

Double Tapper · February 20th, 2009, 18:06

I was kind of hoping they would build the mags like they are,but instead
of a 12g powerlet,you charge them like the C02 grenades.This way
you can have a 20oz tank like before but instead of propane you fill
with C02.A lot of us play on paintball fields,there is bound to be C02
around.

FlyGuy · February 20th, 2009, 18:40

No mention of pricing yet, at least not that I could find on RA-Tech. Seems like an interesting approach to allow "hot" gas guns to be dialed-down to acceptable levels, esp. for the indoor crowd. At least one only has to replace the bolt and not the entire assembly including the carrier so that's not so bad I guess. Although I do believe that as you lower the FPS, the percent of gas directed into recoil goes up, resulting in a harder thwack for the internals to deal with. Hope they're reliable and sturdy enough...??

Airsoft's turning out to be almost as expensive a proposition as aviation and I don't even get to leave the ground!

'Fly

Double Tapper · February 20th, 2009, 19:08

Just light a match and fly.

Sorry for the pun.

Dynamo · February 20th, 2009, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyGuy

No mention of pricing yet, at least not that I could find on RA-Tech. Seems like an interesting approach to allow "hot" gas guns to be dialed-down to acceptable levels, esp. for the indoor crowd. At least one only has to replace the bolt and not the entire assembly including the carrier so that's not so bad I guess. Although I do believe that as you lower the FPS, the percent of gas directed into recoil goes up, resulting in a harder thwack for the internals to deal with. Hope they're reliable and sturdy enough...??

Airsoft's turning out to be almost as expensive a proposition as aviation and I don't even get to leave the ground!

'Fly

this new bolt just has a means of adjusting how much gas goes forward, it shouldnt make any changes to the gas going towards the blowback section.
they removed the flute valve compleatly and reversed the spring in the new one.

the collar that is twisted simply reduces the openning towards the front.
once the BB leaves the barrel, the difference in pressure sucks the valve forward sealing the barrel and sending the gas into the blowback. it's a much better system since you dont need the BB to sit right on the nozzel.

there is far less chance of a missfire(gun recoils and loads a second BB into the hopup)/missfeed, since as long as there is a BB in the barrel somewhere causing back pressure, the valve will stay open untill the barrel is cleared.

Kimbo · February 20th, 2009, 21:59

Awesome! If you really wanted, just get an indoor bolt and an outdoor one.

FlyGuy · February 20th, 2009, 23:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double Tapper

Just light a match and fly.

Sorry for the pun.

Good one...nice image there: a match, some quantity of propane under pressure = one gravity experient! And no, you're not sorry DT...not in the slightest!

I still wonder what RA Tech's going to charge for this little beastie once it's released?

Ready...FIRE...Aim!
'Fly

dragwindsor · February 21st, 2009, 05:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyGuy

I still wonder what RA Tech's going to charge for this little beastie once it's released?

'Fly

$50 USD for the NSAP, and $140 USD for the NSAP in a new RA-Tech aluminum nozzle.

jesster202 · February 21st, 2009, 13:31

well the reality is any one who wants to game theys in canada let alone anywere were fps limit is set they will need to buy on of theys. great way to make some fast cash i guess lol.

attack-beaver · February 25th, 2009, 19:09

1800 bucks! good god man i paid 1600 for a new stag arms carbine 2 years ago

Mr Jon · March 7th, 2009, 13:46

Results are in:

Using .20g's
First Shot: 504.1 FPS
Every other shot varied by as much as 30-50 FPS per shot
Average Fps: 472+ FPS

This is running the stock Inokatsu bolt system, and utilizing an RA-Tech hop chamber inner barrel set and propane gas. Results gathered with a MadBull chrono.

ujiro · March 7th, 2009, 13:51

Thats pretty wild jumps. How does the actual consistency of the flight path deviate with each shot though?

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February 20th, 2009, 14:38	#46
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	Awesome! An adjustable FPS bolt was exactly what was needed! __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

February 20th, 2009, 14:53	#47
Brodie_BHD Trader rating Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Victoria	Seems like a bit of a pain in the ass to guess how many turns and such to get the FPS you want. __________________ Happiness comes from belt fed weapons! -------------------------- SIR - South Island Rangers

February 20th, 2009, 17:51	#49
Dynamo Harvester of Noobs' Sorrow Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: T̆͒ͥ̓̿̅̈́̐͊̿͗̐̾̃͐ͧ&#8	that is so awsome. this is why i have switched to GBB guns, no more batteries, wire, fuses and that god forsaken gearbox. the good thing about this design, is that you can adjust the FPS with no affect to the blowback. i cant wait to see whats going to happen when they finish the CO2 mags. __________________ Weapons Technician / Gunsmith Don't look at me, I don't know, lol ¯\(°_o)/¯.

February 20th, 2009, 15:04	#48
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	Easier then changing the springs in your AEG.

February 20th, 2009, 18:06	#50
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	I was kind of hoping they would build the mags like they are,but instead of a 12g powerlet,you charge them like the C02 grenades.This way you can have a 20oz tank like before but instead of propane you fill with C02.A lot of us play on paintball fields,there is bound to be C02 around.

February 20th, 2009, 18:40	#51
FlyGuy Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: FL120 and below...	No mention of pricing yet, at least not that I could find on RA-Tech. Seems like an interesting approach to allow "hot" gas guns to be dialed-down to acceptable levels, esp. for the indoor crowd. At least one only has to replace the bolt and not the entire assembly including the carrier so that's not so bad I guess. Although I do believe that as you lower the FPS, the percent of gas directed into recoil goes up, resulting in a harder thwack for the internals to deal with. Hope they're reliable and sturdy enough...?? Airsoft's turning out to be almost as expensive a proposition as aviation and I don't even get to leave the ground! 'Fly __________________ Team GHOSTS - Fides et Amicitia G-68 "Can't keep my eyes from the circling skies, Tongue-tied and twisted Just an earth-bound misfit, I" Learning To Fly © 1986 Pink Floyd Last edited by FlyGuy; February 20th, 2009 at 18:45..

February 20th, 2009, 19:08	#52
Double Tapper Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: The land of the over regulated and the banners	Just light a match and fly. Sorry for the pun. Last edited by Double Tapper; February 20th, 2009 at 21:45..

February 20th, 2009, 21:59	#54
Kimbo formerly pivot Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Calgary	Awesome! If you really wanted, just get an indoor bolt and an outdoor one.

February 21st, 2009, 13:31	#57
jesster202 Trader rating Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: London Ontario	well the reality is any one who wants to game theys in canada let alone anywere were fps limit is set they will need to buy on of theys. great way to make some fast cash i guess lol. __________________ *MY COLLECTION* *AEG* M4 coustom full metal with king arms metal body //\\ Galaxy MP5 PDW *GAS/SPRING* KJW M9 FULLY UPGRADED //\\KWA FULL SIZE USP //\\ TF MAC11 *GEAR* Coyote Brown CIRAS

February 25th, 2009, 19:09	#58
attack-beaver Trader rating Join Date: May 2005 Location: calgary	1800 bucks! good god man i paid 1600 for a new stag arms carbine 2 years ago

March 7th, 2009, 13:46	#59
Mr Jon Trailer Park Supervisor Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Winnipeg MB	Results are in: Using .20g's First Shot: 504.1 FPS Every other shot varied by as much as 30-50 FPS per shot Average Fps: 472+ FPS This is running the stock Inokatsu bolt system, and utilizing an RA-Tech hop chamber inner barrel set and propane gas. Results gathered with a MadBull chrono. __________________

March 7th, 2009, 13:51	#60
ujiro Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Burlington, ON	Thats pretty wild jumps. How does the actual consistency of the flight path deviate with each shot though? __________________ I love freedom and consequently America

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