BB Bastard frag36's, anyone tried them??

ThunderCactus · January 29th, 2014, 17:33

Looking for some user reviews

Seems a bit of an anomaly to me, as the .36s are dedicated long range rounds for marksmen only, it's a bit odd that they would make a lower quality .36, but not a regular double polish .36?

So what's the performance on the FRAG BB's like? Are the .36g FRAG's worth it for high accuracy platforms?

I find there's a big gap right now in the ECO line between .28s which are too light and .36 NITES which are way too expensive...

leth1337 · January 29th, 2014, 17:54

Last I heard the FRAG series aren't double polished so as to get more grip on the hopup rubber? Lower cost per round because it takes less to manufacture them due to the single polish. That being said they aren't necessarily lower quality - just different and less expensive based on the adjusted manufacturing process.

I've heard good things about them but never tested them personally

Danke · January 29th, 2014, 17:57

No review but I'll lay a bet that they're fine.

Forever_kaos · January 29th, 2014, 18:08

I use their .3's, love em! I'm probably going to get a box of .36 for the summer

BloodSport · January 29th, 2014, 18:56

I have used their .25, .28, .32 and .36 Frag rounds. They say they are not double polished but they sure do look and feel like they are.

So far have run them through the following barrels 6.01 G&P, 6.03 G&P, 6.01 TK Twist, 6.03 TM, 6.01 Madbull with no issues.

Only shot a few hundred rounds of the .28, .32 and .36 ones, but I've gone through approximately 6000 of the .25's.

ThunderCactus · January 29th, 2014, 18:58

accuracy is pretty awesome on them?

BloodSport · January 29th, 2014, 19:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThunderCactus

accuracy is pretty awesome on them?

I had no complaints shooting people from one end of the hallway inside the hospital to the other with them

Scarecrow · February 16th, 2014, 00:15

I can shed some light.

Correct, they are not double polished which is why we did not associate the line with the premium line - we did not want to mislead anyone that we had release a premium double polish +.30g as it would have been dishonest. It was an experiment that did not meet our premium standard but that being said, they are pretty damn good for the price. We won't be running that line again, so, while we have a good supply of them, once they are gone, they will be gone for good.

We're currently working on perfecting a double polish +.30g BB line, its just that the materials above .30g resist our current fine polish methods in that it results with pitting due to the harder material. They work fine with single fire gas guns as that type of feedpath and firing mechanism does not stress the BB surface the way your typical AEG, PTW or other mag fed system does. We don't want to harden the BB too much as it would damage a full auto feedpath - in fact, ALL of the manufacturers we've tested (virtually all the North American ones) are too hard for full auto - its a reason why you're seeing a drought on heavies. I'd rather not have a heavyweight that would do full auto damage than sell something that could damage our customers guns, and cause anyone to distrust our brand. The current FRAG .36g is full-auto safe because its 95% the same material as the < .30g so I am not worried about it, but the result is you simply can't double polish it. From what I have heard though, people are quite happy with it. I won't be happy until we have a .36g and a .40g in double polish, and hopefully, WHITE.

FreelancerInc · February 16th, 2014, 00:37

thank you soo much for this information....its much appreciated

chaz · July 3rd, 2014, 14:39

Slight bump of an old thread.
Has anyone tried their BIO Frag .28's?
Compared to other popular brands - EliteForce, Madbull, BBB premium line?

BloodSport · July 3rd, 2014, 15:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz

Slight bump of an old thread.
Has anyone tried their BIO Frag .28's?
Compared to other popular brands - EliteForce, Madbull, BBB premium line?

Can let you know after next week, our team has a large order of multiple eco, classic and frag Bastards on route.

chaz · July 3rd, 2014, 15:32

Was hoping to pick up a box next week. Might just bite the bullet and pick them up anyway. I am going to guess they cant be worse then Madbull or Elite Force.

Wardlord · July 3rd, 2014, 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by chaz

Slight bump of an old thread.
Has anyone tried their BIO Frag .28's?
Compared to other popular brands - EliteForce, Madbull, BBB premium line?

I stock .28 ECO and our team shoots them anytime we have to use biodegradable ammo. I have not noticed any difference as far as quality, accuracy etc. They are just as good as the classics as far as I am concerned.

chaz · July 3rd, 2014, 21:31

If I am reading right, essentially their FRAG line is the same thing as their premium line just not double polished?

ThunderCactus · July 7th, 2014, 22:29

yep pretty much

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January 29th, 2014, 17:33	#1
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	BB Bastard frag36's, anyone tried them?? Looking for some user reviews Seems a bit of an anomaly to me, as the .36s are dedicated long range rounds for marksmen only, it's a bit odd that they would make a lower quality .36, but not a regular double polish .36? So what's the performance on the FRAG BB's like? Are the .36g FRAG's worth it for high accuracy platforms? I find there's a big gap right now in the ECO line between .28s which are too light and .36 NITES which are way too expensive...

January 29th, 2014, 17:54	#2
leth1337 Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: York Region, Ontario	Last I heard the FRAG series aren't double polished so as to get more grip on the hopup rubber? Lower cost per round because it takes less to manufacture them due to the single polish. That being said they aren't necessarily lower quality - just different and less expensive based on the adjusted manufacturing process. I've heard good things about them but never tested them personally __________________ WHISKEY-13

January 29th, 2014, 17:57	#3
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BloodSport Traveling Man Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan	I have used their .25, .28, .32 and .36 Frag rounds. They say they are not double polished but they sure do look and feel like they are. So far have run them through the following barrels 6.01 G&P, 6.03 G&P, 6.01 TK Twist, 6.03 TM, 6.01 Madbull with no issues. Only shot a few hundred rounds of the .28, .32 and .36 ones, but I've gone through approximately 6000 of the .25's. __________________ Saskatchewan Age Verifier! Contact for more Info.

January 29th, 2014, 18:58	#6
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	accuracy is pretty awesome on them?

February 16th, 2014, 00:15	#8
Scarecrow A Total Bastard Trader rating Join Date: May 2003 Location: Tottenham	I can shed some light. Correct, they are not double polished which is why we did not associate the line with the premium line - we did not want to mislead anyone that we had release a premium double polish +.30g as it would have been dishonest. It was an experiment that did not meet our premium standard but that being said, they are pretty damn good for the price. We won't be running that line again, so, while we have a good supply of them, once they are gone, they will be gone for good. We're currently working on perfecting a double polish +.30g BB line, its just that the materials above .30g resist our current fine polish methods in that it results with pitting due to the harder material. They work fine with single fire gas guns as that type of feedpath and firing mechanism does not stress the BB surface the way your typical AEG, PTW or other mag fed system does. We don't want to harden the BB too much as it would damage a full auto feedpath - in fact, ALL of the manufacturers we've tested (virtually all the North American ones) are too hard for full auto - its a reason why you're seeing a drought on heavies. I'd rather not have a heavyweight that would do full auto damage than sell something that could damage our customers guns, and cause anyone to distrust our brand. The current FRAG .36g is full-auto safe because its 95% the same material as the < .30g so I am not worried about it, but the result is you simply can't double polish it. From what I have heard though, people are quite happy with it. I won't be happy until we have a .36g and a .40g in double polish, and hopefully, WHITE. __________________ LIKE us on Facebook!! Last edited by Scarecrow; February 16th, 2014 at 00:18..

February 16th, 2014, 00:37	#9
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July 3rd, 2014, 14:39	#10
chaz Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ajax	Slight bump of an old thread. Has anyone tried their BIO Frag .28's? Compared to other popular brands - EliteForce, Madbull, BBB premium line?

July 3rd, 2014, 15:32	#12
chaz Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ajax	Was hoping to pick up a box next week. Might just bite the bullet and pick them up anyway. I am going to guess they cant be worse then Madbull or Elite Force.

July 3rd, 2014, 21:31	#14
chaz Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Ajax	If I am reading right, essentially their FRAG line is the same thing as their premium line just not double polished?

July 7th, 2014, 22:29	#15
ThunderCactus Not Eye Safe, Pretty Boy Maximus on the field take his picture! Trader rating Join Date: Feb 2007	yep pretty much

BB Bastard frag36's, anyone tried them??

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