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Old November 17th, 2012, 00:02   #61
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I have the biggest, juiciest and the most bad ass steak and all the bacon jam he can get his hands on for Chris if he ever showed up in Toronto
Haha. For that, I will.

The Midwest rail is a slim rail. It looks nice. RacingManiac has the real one on one of his builds.

Shane, we currently aren't taking souls at this time but if we did....5%?
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Old November 17th, 2012, 13:57   #62
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Lung from FCC showed me some pictures, they are actually quite nice I'm not a fan of the midwest industries replica rail they look too much like a hybrid of VTAC and JP, i much prefer they put on a slimline rail like the TRX or Viking Tac replica.
I prefer if they stick with Delta ring handguard. This gun isn't made for porn show, it's for training. Most if not all military AR-15 are still running Delta ring with the few SOF that swapped it.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 14:01   #63
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Chris can DTT get all the FCC stuff in?

i have a friend that wants to buy a PTW and get the M416 kit from FCC! though im tempted to say no because then his PTW will be sexier than mine
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Wildcard his gun is better than all of yours, he has magpul stuff on it, all the magpuls you can dream of. He has all of them. On his gun. I wish I had magpuls
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Look at all the fucks no one gives Miles, look at them. There is a lot of fucks not being given.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 14:19   #64
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I prefer if they stick with Delta ring handguard. This gun isn't made for porn show, it's for training. Most if not all military AR-15 are still running Delta ring with the few SOF that swapped it.
well they have that too but I guess the budget rifle are meant to attract the potential Systema PTW buyer away to FCC so they are doing it with what most buyers want but without th eadded cost. So far my NST rifle is solid so is the 9" diplomat with the TRX. as some of my friends and those who knew me for a long time have said if a airsoft gun can last more than a month with me then its quality and build has definitely been tested

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Chris can DTT get all the FCC stuff in?

i have a friend that wants to buy a PTW and get the M416 kit from FCC! though im tempted to say no because then his PTW will be sexier than mine
Don't be jealous, Chris at DTT can absolutely help you, I have the full build rifle coming in
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Old November 17th, 2012, 15:01   #65
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Absolutely right. Chris and DDT are "officially" FCC suppliers. You won't find a better retailer anywhere. Contact DTT with any questions, and they will help you out.
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Old November 17th, 2012, 15:52   #66
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Yep Chris at DTT is definitely the place to go. I'd do business with them again in a heartbeat.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 15:01   #67
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Chris can DTT get all the FCC stuff in?

i have a friend that wants to buy a PTW and get the M416 kit from FCC! though im tempted to say no because then his PTW will be sexier than mine
Yeah, we can get everything. We stock the more popular upgrade bits but do special orders on the guns. The website will be updated soon with more of their inventory and prices.


Thanks for all the kind words guys. We appreciate it!
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Old November 18th, 2012, 15:05   #68
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I prefer if they stick with Delta ring handguard. This gun isn't made for porn show, it's for training. Most if not all military AR-15 are still running Delta ring with the few SOF that swapped it.
I agree the rail isn't for everyone, but most people get rid of the delta ring and hand guards right away for some type of rail. How many AR's do you see kept in that stock configuration these days? Everyone has to stick lights and lasers on the now.
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Old November 18th, 2012, 15:53   #69
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I prefer if they stick with Delta ring handguard. This gun isn't made for porn show, it's for training. Most if not all military AR-15 are still running Delta ring with the few SOF that swapped it.
Majority of AR-15's for US military have been upgraded to a bolt up rail design (See Daniel Defense) and have completely converted to a free float barrel for better stability.

Some branches of the military/LE are taking it one step further and only ordering completely monolithic designs now to completely cut out the requirement to order "rail systems". (LWRC and H&K being prime examples)
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Old November 19th, 2012, 04:34   #70
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Majority of AR-15's for US military have been upgraded to a bolt up rail design (See Daniel Defense) and have completely converted to a free float barrel for better stability.

Some branches of the military/LE are taking it one step further and only ordering completely monolithic designs now to completely cut out the requirement to order "rail systems". (LWRC and H&K being prime examples)
I highly doubt the regular forces switch out the KAC RAS already.
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Old November 19th, 2012, 12:17   #71
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I prefer floating rails over the dated plastic handguards. Besides paying a premium price, I would expect rails.

As for military use... Why do those players that insist on realism wear baseball caps and not a helmet?
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Old November 19th, 2012, 21:17   #72
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Old December 21st, 2012, 00:39   #73
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A little quick update from my experience with FCC, I finally get to fart around the 416 complete build tonight, with the little range time I got, all I have got to say is WOW! the 416 is lighter than any other full metal 416 out there (due to the lightweight T6 all CNC aliuminum construction) the performance was like any other FCC product they are top notch but this time due to the short CQB'ish barrel it have more of a loud snap than that infamous PTW Zip sound. The only thing that made my 416 stand out when compared to the rest is that I got some of their silver bling parts on it like my trigger, boltstop and mag release and a Magpul Mbuis2 sights and MOE grips.

Now the Cons
- one of the downside to this beautiful AEG is that my FCC Pmag an dan actual Pmag wont fit, you will have to make a slight modification to the mag catch notch on the mag to make it fit, so for the time being your regular Systema magazine will fit.
- Another con on this complete build is the stock the LMT replica stock feels very plastic definitely not my cup of tea and definitely should not be on a gun that cost this much, so I forsee a Troy Battle Axe stock on this baby in teh very near future.

- Shooting the gun with the newer Velocity M90 cylinder resulted in a nice and CQB friendly 330fps (more on this later when I get some more range time) performance wise there are no overheating like the Systema. A quick shoot in my makeshift range resulted in a constant 330-328 fps @8 mags semi and 6 mags full auto, Tri burst function was not tested due to lack of time and dead batteries

First impression conclusion
definitely worth the purchase, especially for those who wants the best TW performance, the cons on this gun is minor when you put the whole package together. FCC is rectifying the mag fitment issue with their new Rampo mags soon to be released and a few other "correct parts" like the 416 tango down grips, with the rumored upcoming release of their AK platform I can't wait for their new products.

Pictures of the bling and updated review will be up later

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Old December 21st, 2012, 09:16   #74
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1 quick question: we can legally import metal body into canada now? or still have to go through some retailer?
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Old December 21st, 2012, 11:12   #75
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1 quick question: we can legally import metal body into canada now? or still have to go through some retailer?
I got in an extra lower from FCC, they are a full complete lower and attached to it is the proper paperwork, the item spent a day at custom in Missisauga and was released the same day. The lower has the full Noveske rifle works logo and details so I guess it's fine if you have the proper papers
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