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Old November 9th, 2017, 18:26   #16
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Were they H&K?
Rheinmetall?
MIC?
SEDENA?
Defense Industries Organization?
Fábrica de Braço de Prata?
Bofors Carl Gustaf?
Husqvarna Vapenfabriks Aktiebolag?
Elliniki Viomihania Oplon?
Kongsberg Våpenfabrikk?
MAS?
Military Industry Corporation?
MKEK?
Pakistan Ordnance Factories?
Royal Ordnance?
Bangladesh Ordnance Factories?
One of the Civilian makes?
Perhaps one of the rebuilds?

There are a vast number of reasons that the G3 you handled may have been nicely welded, but the majority of H&K, and likely most military G3 were not they simply had to function reliably and last, not win beauty pageants.

That said, I'm not saying you didn't fire em, or spend time on them, but the vast majority of people who say they "spent time" on a weapons system usually mean range trips of using one when they went to Vegas. I'd be interested to hear you elaborate on this.

For example: I've used H&K, Rheinmetall, Husqvarna, Fábrica de Braço de Prata and MAS, as well as a few pieces of trash from Century Arms. I've got a number of friends in the U.S. with the required licences and paperwork to own Automatics as well as destructive devices. The welds, as I recall, on all of them, were pretty trash, and they were not all the same G3 variant.

Z's photos of LCT G3 welds look pretty spot on to me.

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I served in the German military. H&K made.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 09:32   #17
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Why not just have nicer welds and build quality even if it challenges people's ideas of "authenticity" to the real one. LCT clearly has the capabilities to do so.
Why in the flying fuck do you care about the quality of welds? You're not going to shear the weld. As long as they're not jagged to the point of cutting your skin... Who cares?

Lets all just take a moment and realize that this G3 is made from a material that is weldable.

Not plastic like TM. Not Zinc alloy like CA and JG... not Magnesium like the G&G body kits that were available long ago.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 09:46   #18
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Why in the flying fuck do you care about the quality of welds? You're not going to shear the weld. As long as they're not jagged to the point of cutting your skin... Who cares?
Who cares? Anyone that cares about quality and aesthetics.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 10:10   #19
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Old November 10th, 2017, 12:45   #20
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Why in the flying fuck do you care about the quality of welds? You're not going to shear the weld. As long as they're not jagged to the point of cutting your skin... Who cares?

Lets all just take a moment and realize that this G3 is made from a material that is weldable.

Not plastic like TM. Not Zinc alloy like CA and JG... not Magnesium like the G&G body kits that were available long ago.
I agree with Pesto and by extension your sentiment that yes, this is the best G3 made. However, LCT clearly has the capabilities to improve things in the gearbox and externaly as they did with their AKs (making them some of the best on the market).

If the quality can be better why should we expect less. Their AKs have clean welds, machined parts, and a better finish. I applaud LCT's effort that they actually went to make a gun that is unique and make it right but of course there is always room for improvement.
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Old November 10th, 2017, 18:08   #21
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Why in the flying fuck do you care about the quality of welds? You're not going to shear the weld. As long as they're not jagged to the point of cutting your skin... Who cares?

Lets all just take a moment and realize that this G3 is made from a material that is weldable.

Not plastic like TM. Not Zinc alloy like CA and JG... not Magnesium like the G&G body kits that were available long ago.
I thought JG G3 is plastic only? They had a metal one before?
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Old November 11th, 2017, 20:54   #22
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I served in the German military. H&K made.
Interesting, around what time? Not calling your service into question, but I'd be curious to know if they cranked up the QC since the end of the cold war. Most of the ones I've used have been older rifles.


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I thought JG G3 is plastic only? They had a metal one before?
Yes, it was ...... pretty creaky from what I recall, and the receivers liked to crack.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 08:59   #23
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Interesting, around what time? Not calling your service into question, but I'd be curious to know if they cranked up the QC since the end of the cold war. Most of the ones I've used have been older rifles.
I was in 2009+. I would have to go back and look at some pictures for exact years, but from what I remember all G3s I used were older than I, think late 70s manufacturing dates.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 12:42   #24
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So was the rifle in some sort of small arms museum?

Usually when that's done they'll either select prime production examples or the weapons from the ordnance trials.
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Old November 13th, 2017, 16:23   #25
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So was the rifle in some sort of small arms museum?

Usually when that's done they'll either select prime production examples or the weapons from the ordnance trials.
In 2009 the G3 was still part of the active inventory for some units.

Also keep in mind that the first units did not get their G28s until 2012 (more vanilla units had to probably wait much longer), so the G3A3 ZF/DMR was still used up to at least 2012+ by most units.

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Old November 13th, 2017, 18:21   #26
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In 2009 the G3 was still part of the active inventory for some units.

Also keep in mind that the first units did not get their G28s until 2012 (more vanilla units had to probably wait much longer), so the G3A3 ZF/DMR was still used up to at least 2012+ by most units.
What unit?
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Old November 14th, 2017, 13:40   #27
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So all in all, the air nozzle, and the tappet plate seem to be the problematic parts of this build. What Air Nozzle would be best to help with said air seal issue? The SIG nozzle? Or the G36 nozzle?

Planning on getting one either this Xmas or early next year.
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Old May 20th, 2018, 16:55   #28
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Smile A couple of questions, if you don’t mind:)

First of all, thank you very much: This is the most detailed review about this gun that I could find anywhere. As somebody who is looking into getting his first more expensive AEG, I just wanted to ask whether installing a Mosfet in this gun is worth it. Apart from the obviously better trigger response, is it going to make the gun last longer? And do you think a person like me, who has little knowledge of AEG internals, could install one himself? Or should I just keep it in it’s stock config?
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