HELP - CQB Rig and M4 bag.

m102404 · October 27th, 2009, 11:30

I'm not much of a gear head...so hopefully this is enough to go on. Please help me sort out what to get.

Rig Requirements:
- hold 2-4 M4 mags
- chest/front and back protection (at least panels to take the sting/bleeders out of shots)
- light and tight for indoor CQB
- no bells, whistles, release rip-cords, etc...
- hold 2-4 grenades (2-3 accessible by me, 1-2 accessible to partners)
- radio pouch
- not floppy

I'm running my hicapa in a belt mounted serpa and 2 spare pistol mags on my rear left hip in an open top bianchi holder. Dump pouch on my belt.

I'd like the rig to be really out of the way for getting to my pistol. I've been running an Eagle Commando Recon Vest (RRV?) and the back waist strap blocks my pistol/mags (at least it feels like they're getting hung up).

I suppose that as long as all the pouches/stuff are laid out perfectly...I don't care if it's MOLLE or not. Once it's setup I'm leaving the pouches/stuff static.

NOTE: I'm not sure what differences there are between a plate carrier like below and an MBSS...they look pretty much the same to me. There's probably other ackronym-gear that I don't know...so suggestions are more than welcome.

I'm looking at this...what do you think? will it do the trick?:
Eagle Industries Plate Carrier (Khaki I guess...but whatevers closest to Coyote Brown)

Also, I'd like to transport my M4 CQBR split in two for the smallest/shortest case possible. No camo, nosey-neighbour friendly.

I was looking at this...Pantac GoBag (Khaki I guess...or CB...solid colour, no camo)

I hate ordering stuff...so pointers to local sources or sales is a big plus to me.

Thank you!

Tys

Farmboy · October 27th, 2009, 11:36

If you can make it down to Trenton drop by our store. You can lay out any vest/rig on the table and put it together, try it on etc.

GSK88 · October 27th, 2009, 11:38

The Blackhawk STRIKE Plate carrier is pretty nice for just front and back protection.

https://www.vikingpolice.com/images/18-737-IMG2_T.jpg

Lots of MOLLE room, very light and there's on for sale in the classifieds right now. Should be around $70. Put the fake SAPI plates in mine, fits REALLY snugly, not uncomfortably so.

m102404 · October 27th, 2009, 11:41

Blackhawk STRIKE, Eagle Plate Carrier, Pantac MBSS....are there any differences?!?! I can barely tell them apart (from web photos).

Farmboy...
Are you thinking of the ATS Plate Carrier?

Bugger...gonna have to book a day off work...

Tys

ShelledPants · October 27th, 2009, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404

Blackhawk STRIKE, Eagle Plate Carrier, Pantac MBSS....are there any differences?!?! I can barely tell them apart (from web photos).

Farmboy...
Are you thinking of the ATS Plate Carrier?

Bugger...gonna have to book a day off work...

Tys

Heads up on the MBSS style, you might not have the proper arm movement for indoor... It's right up against your armpit and bicep.

The TAG plate carrier:

Has those cut outs to allow better movement of the arms. I tried it on at One Shot Tactical, and if I had the coin, would have bought it on the spot.

Brian McIlmoyle · October 27th, 2009, 12:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404

Blackhawk STRIKE, Eagle Plate Carrier, Pantac MBSS....are there any differences?!?! I can barely tell them apart (from web photos).

Farmboy...
Are you thinking of the ATS Plate Carrier?

Bugger...gonna have to book a day off work...

Tys

let me know when ROAD TRIP!!!!

ILLusion · October 27th, 2009, 12:39

http://ascmart.ca/product_info.php?c...products_id=44

m102404 · October 27th, 2009, 13:36

Booking this Monday (Nov 2nd) off. I'd like to head out in the morning and be back in time to play with my gear for the afternoon!

Carpooling if you want to Brian.
(NOTE: I'm not responsible for your gear buying binges...)

Godlyspartan · October 27th, 2009, 21:56

How much movement do you want?

If you want a lot of movement with some protection i would go with Paraclete Hard plate carrier or chicken plate carrier.

Paraclete HPC
http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...%3D18%26um%3D1

Chicken Plate Airsoft replica
http://cgi.ebay.com/TS-Chicken-SAPI-...item2a02281c29

Both these rigs make holstering on the belt easy as there isn't anything there to obstruct your holster.

If you plan on getting the MBSS, I would suggest the S/M sizing because the one in Shell Pants post is of a large and usually worn by burly Navy SEALs who's shoulders clear the shouldering of the gun lol. The medium Size is angled off at the shoulder so it will be easier to shoulder your gun. This item can be had from Pantac at a cheap price think it was $80 dollars?

If you want a little more protection with lots of movement in the shoulder I would also suggest the LBT 6094 which is basically a Plate carrier with a cumberbund for extra real estate for goodies. Pantac also makes a knockoff of this so you can save dollars here as well.

In terms Gear bag there are few out of there that are good, but the one i enjoy most is this Eagle Sigma III bag, that comes with the padded M4 Case and shoulder strap.
http://www.optactical.com/easiiiibagwp.html

I own a lot of this stuff Tyson, so if you want to copafeel your welcome to.

Brian McIlmoyle · October 27th, 2009, 23:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by m102404

Booking this Monday (Nov 2nd) off. I'd like to head out in the morning and be back in time to play with my gear for the afternoon!

Carpooling if you want to Brian.
(NOTE: I'm not responsible for your gear buying binges...)

ARRG Ill confirm later this week!!

m102404 · October 28th, 2009, 11:46

Thanks guys...good pointers and links.

For myself, this isn't so much as an impression thing as a function over form thing. Airsoft function that is...

I've got too many scars on my upper chest and back from where my gear doesn't cover me...don't mind taking the hits, but I'd like to avoid the bleeders/wounds if possible.

Most CQB stuff will be at CQB and TTAC3 this winter...it's pretty tight at times. It's got to be small/light/tight for going through windows and some of the crawl spaces. I'd sacrifice side protection for mobility...I really didn't like the way my CIRAS felt like I was wearing a barrel.

Most engagements don't last more than 2 mags and 2 grenades. Fast/frantic IA. At CQB we need pliers/cutters and misc dirty tricks as well. So whatever works best is good enough.

I'm going to hit Darren's place Monday and check stuff out there. Godly...maybe I'll hook up with Tech and we'll finger your goodies if I'm still befuddled by it all. I could use some expert tips on setting it up.

Tys

Kit · October 28th, 2009, 12:13

sorry for thread jacking but.. does Viking Police & Security Co ship the vests and armor no problem or do they ask for a ID of some sort??

m102404 · October 28th, 2009, 13:22

Why don't you ask them? E-mail is free....

xandrewx · October 29th, 2009, 00:09

might have what your looking for

http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=85003

technosnob · October 29th, 2009, 07:27

One Shot Tactical is so worth the drive!!! It's like porn for gear whores.....plus the customer service is top notch

Have fun Tys

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October 27th, 2009, 11:30	#1
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	HELP - CQB Rig and M4 bag. I'm not much of a gear head...so hopefully this is enough to go on. Please help me sort out what to get. Rig Requirements: - hold 2-4 M4 mags - chest/front and back protection (at least panels to take the sting/bleeders out of shots) - light and tight for indoor CQB - no bells, whistles, release rip-cords, etc... - hold 2-4 grenades (2-3 accessible by me, 1-2 accessible to partners) - radio pouch - not floppy I'm running my hicapa in a belt mounted serpa and 2 spare pistol mags on my rear left hip in an open top bianchi holder. Dump pouch on my belt. I'd like the rig to be really out of the way for getting to my pistol. I've been running an Eagle Commando Recon Vest (RRV?) and the back waist strap blocks my pistol/mags (at least it feels like they're getting hung up). I suppose that as long as all the pouches/stuff are laid out perfectly...I don't care if it's MOLLE or not. Once it's setup I'm leaving the pouches/stuff static. NOTE: I'm not sure what differences there are between a plate carrier like below and an MBSS...they look pretty much the same to me. There's probably other ackronym-gear that I don't know...so suggestions are more than welcome. I'm looking at this...what do you think? will it do the trick?: Eagle Industries Plate Carrier (Khaki I guess...but whatevers closest to Coyote Brown) Also, I'd like to transport my M4 CQBR split in two for the smallest/shortest case possible. No camo, nosey-neighbour friendly. I was looking at this...Pantac GoBag (Khaki I guess...or CB...solid colour, no camo) I hate ordering stuff...so pointers to local sources or sales is a big plus to me. Thank you! Tys

October 27th, 2009, 11:36	#2
Farmboy Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Trenton Area	If you can make it down to Trenton drop by our store. You can lay out any vest/rig on the table and put it together, try it on etc. __________________ Official Merchant of War. Exclusive Canadian Distributor for Blue Force Gear, Knights Armament, Rainier Arms, High Ground, Battle Comp, Multitasker and more! http://oneshottactical.com/ One Shot Tactical Inc.

October 27th, 2009, 11:38	#3
GSK88 Trader rating Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: T-dot	The Blackhawk STRIKE Plate carrier is pretty nice for just front and back protection. https://www.vikingpolice.com/images/18-737-IMG2_T.jpg Lots of MOLLE room, very light and there's on for sale in the classifieds right now. Should be around $70. Put the fake SAPI plates in mine, fits REALLY snugly, not uncomfortably so. __________________

October 27th, 2009, 11:41	#4
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Blackhawk STRIKE, Eagle Plate Carrier, Pantac MBSS....are there any differences?!?! I can barely tell them apart (from web photos). Farmboy... Are you thinking of the ATS Plate Carrier? Bugger...gonna have to book a day off work... Tys Last edited by m102404; October 27th, 2009 at 11:46..

October 27th, 2009, 12:39	#7
ILLusion GBB Whisperer Trader rating Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Toronto	http://ascmart.ca/product_info.php?c...products_id=44 __________________ *Advanced Airsoft Armaments and Enhancements* Quick to the gun, sure of your grip. Quick to the threat, sure of your shot. Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas Accuracy, Power, Speed

October 27th, 2009, 13:36	#8
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Booking this Monday (Nov 2nd) off. I'd like to head out in the morning and be back in time to play with my gear for the afternoon! Carpooling if you want to Brian. (NOTE: I'm not responsible for your gear buying binges...)

October 27th, 2009, 21:56	#9
Godlyspartan Mr Clean Trader rating Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Torontostan	How much movement do you want? If you want a lot of movement with some protection i would go with Paraclete Hard plate carrier or chicken plate carrier. Paraclete HPC http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgur...%3D18%26um%3D1 Chicken Plate Airsoft replica http://cgi.ebay.com/TS-Chicken-SAPI-...item2a02281c29 Both these rigs make holstering on the belt easy as there isn't anything there to obstruct your holster. If you plan on getting the MBSS, I would suggest the S/M sizing because the one in Shell Pants post is of a large and usually worn by burly Navy SEALs who's shoulders clear the shouldering of the gun lol. The medium Size is angled off at the shoulder so it will be easier to shoulder your gun. This item can be had from Pantac at a cheap price think it was $80 dollars? If you want a little more protection with lots of movement in the shoulder I would also suggest the LBT 6094 which is basically a Plate carrier with a cumberbund for extra real estate for goodies. Pantac also makes a knockoff of this so you can save dollars here as well. In terms Gear bag there are few out of there that are good, but the one i enjoy most is this Eagle Sigma III bag, that comes with the padded M4 Case and shoulder strap. http://www.optactical.com/easiiiibagwp.html I own a lot of this stuff Tyson, so if you want to copafeel your welcome to. __________________ Contras A-02: Old Buy/Sell Rating Last edited by Godlyspartan; October 28th, 2009 at 03:26..

October 28th, 2009, 11:46	#11
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Thanks guys...good pointers and links. For myself, this isn't so much as an impression thing as a function over form thing. Airsoft function that is... I've got too many scars on my upper chest and back from where my gear doesn't cover me...don't mind taking the hits, but I'd like to avoid the bleeders/wounds if possible. Most CQB stuff will be at CQB and TTAC3 this winter...it's pretty tight at times. It's got to be small/light/tight for going through windows and some of the crawl spaces. I'd sacrifice side protection for mobility...I really didn't like the way my CIRAS felt like I was wearing a barrel. Most engagements don't last more than 2 mags and 2 grenades. Fast/frantic IA. At CQB we need pliers/cutters and misc dirty tricks as well. So whatever works best is good enough. I'm going to hit Darren's place Monday and check stuff out there. Godly...maybe I'll hook up with Tech and we'll finger your goodies if I'm still befuddled by it all. I could use some expert tips on setting it up. Tys

October 28th, 2009, 12:13	#12
Kit Ride Sleds! Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Kitchener+Cambridge, Ontario	sorry for thread jacking but.. does Viking Police & Security Co ship the vests and armor no problem or do they ask for a ID of some sort?? __________________ Retired.

October 28th, 2009, 13:22	#13
m102404 Tys Trader rating Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Toronto	Why don't you ask them? E-mail is free....

October 29th, 2009, 00:09	#14
xandrewx Trader rating Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ontario	might have what your looking for http://www.airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=85003 __________________ MODT - tu fui ego eris

October 29th, 2009, 07:27	#15
technosnob Trader rating Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Toronto	One Shot Tactical is so worth the drive!!! It's like porn for gear whores.....plus the customer service is top notch Have fun Tys

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